Hi. New here.

[kproflostsouls]

Hello. Thought I'd introduce myself.

I'm really glad I found this place. I've only recently stumbled onto this pairing but It's gone onto my list of favorite pairings.

Hope to be able to contribute to this commuity and help the world be filled with pipster goodness! *big grin*

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[belphegor1982]

Hi :o) I'm the resident Frenchwoman, in case you need to translate something into/from French :o]

If you don't mind me asking, how did you discover Piper and Trickster? After all, we all have different ways to get there, and I'm interested :D

[kproflostsouls]

Well it's actuaolly kind of silly. See I only really paid attetion to batman mostly. But then like about a year ago I heard somthing that perked up my ears.

The pied piper was a openly gay comic character.

Yes of all the things that got me into flash comics it was the gay rights thing.

Anyway I looekd into it and thought it was cool. Found a couple of Wally/Hartly fics but that never seemed to fit with me.

Then I watched Justice leauge 'flash and substane' and saw that overly colored man called the trickster who just seemed to be a goof. (but a cute one! I wanted to hug him when he said 'nobody gets me')

I thought he was adorable and I looked into him. Then I stumbled onto fanfiction for the pairng of piper/trickster and fell in love with it.

[belphegor1982]

Oh, I really see what you mean - I mostly discovered the Rogues through Flash and Substance, and later I did a little research on the Trickster because he was such a complete sweetheart (acid snot gun notwithstanding :P) and had my heart broken 'cause I found out he died :'( Of course, he's very different from Comics!James Jesse, but that's all right if you can compartmentalise :o)

And Piper's coming out is one Crowning Moment of Awesome. Wally's "Oh look at the time, I gotta go" face and Piper's look in response never gets old :D

[kproflostsouls]

I have GOT to find the comic where piper comes out.

I know trickster is different in the cartoon then in the comic (I eman they always water down the villians for kid show, did the same thing with batman)

I actaully orderd 'underworld unleashed' Figured that was good comic to really get to know the comic 'james jesse'

[belphegor1982]

Welll, they didn't "water down" the Trickster so much as based him off his Flash TV series counterpart (and then watered him down :D), where he was played by Mark Hamill (two years before he voiced the Joker in Batman The Animated Series!).

You can download pretty much every Flash issue (even the 1940s Jay Garrick ones!) here in rapid share or something (the site is in Spanish, but the comics are all in English). I think the issue you're looking for is Volume 2 (Wally West), #53, "Fast Friends" :o)

And yes, Underworld Unleashed is as good as any a starting point to get to know James Jesse, "soo-per-geenn-yus" :D

[defying3reason]

in either flash 56 or 57 (i forget which but i can check it for you) they have the letters page responding to piper's outing, which is just amazing. i've been meaning to post it to the comm, but i sadly lack access to a scanner right now.

[belphegor1982]

And it's not silly at all :o)

[kproflostsouls]

I guess not you want to talk weird/silly One of the reaonse I want to learn more about the comic trickster is that his reaso for turning to crine is similar to the comic riddlers (both were bored)

and I can't stop comparing the relathionship between flash and his rouges and batman and his rouges (they really are similar....well excpet that none of flash's rouge are psycho to my knowledge)

[belphegor1982]

Lots of villains seem to turn to crime because it makes life interesting, don't they? :P

As heroes/villains relationships go, I think Batman's and Flash's are fairly different, if only because the individuals and their way of working together really are. The Gotham bunch don't band together much, and when they do, it doesn't last (imagine having to rely on the Joker to watch your back, for one 0.o) while the Central City Rogues actually are a team and (generally) will help each other up in a tight spot. And yeah, while a lot Batman's villains have at least a few screws loose, I guess the only really crazy ones in Flash's rogues gallery are the Reverse Flashes (both, actually - one for Barry and one of Wally). You wanna watch out for those :S

(And... I really don't want to sound/appear rude, but... could you make a bit of an effort with the spelling thing? Because it may be because it's hard to read a foreign language at one in the morning, but it is a bit difficult. And not only because the rogue/rouge mistake is one of my pet

[kproflostsouls]

(Sorry. I tend to type fast and forget to spellcheck.)

When I say their similar I meant in the 'If we can't kill him no one can' way. I mean Batman's gallery are totally sadistic and psycho but if someone killed batman and bragged about it they would be pissed. Same with flash I bet, I mean I even heard that a lot of flash's gallery went into retirement after barry allen died.

They ARE differnt though. The flash's guys do tend to team up more where batman's guys work alone.

and I get the sense that if wally died his gallery would mourn but then go on with thier lives. They'd miss him but they would handle it.

If batman died? *Shudder* The gotham gallery would either tear gotham apart in sorrow and commit suicide or just go catatonic (joker acutally did that in the dark knight returns. spent decades in a catonic state because batman went away.)

sorry I tend to ramble. I just love comparing and contrasting my favorite things.