The 'Spectre' of Genocide

Aug 11, 2003 23:00

The following is a lengthy excerpt on socialism and racism from George Watson's "The Lost Literature of Socialism" (The Lutterworth Press, Cambridge, pp. 77-80). It's well worth a complete read.

"But it was the issue of race, above all, that for a half a century has prevented National Socialism from being seen as socialist. The assumption that ( Read more... )

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square_eyes August 12 2003, 12:15:35 UTC
socialist here.

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phthisis August 12 2003, 15:36:34 UTC
If the 100 million deaths attributable to regimes calling themselves socialist, clearly adumbrated in the passage quoted in this journal entry, aren't enough, perhaps this quote from Marx will communicate to you why I am not a socialist:

"Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew -- not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.

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The social emancipation of the Jew is the emancipation of society from Judaism."

-- Marx, "On the Jewish Question"
All of this said, Jews can take pride that the purest form of socialism -- a democratic, non-violent experiment whose collectivist orthodoxy was made wondrous by the uncompromised volition of its adherents -- is theirs: the kibbutz movement. And now, in their third generation, its members are exercising ( ... )

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square_eyes August 12 2003, 15:54:21 UTC
i'm not a marxist, i'm a socialist. i simply cannot abide a society where the rich seem to get richer and the poor only get poorer.

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square_eyes August 12 2003, 15:55:20 UTC
poorer isn't a word is it? more poor. there.

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comasocialist September 24 2003, 05:18:10 UTC
before i reply to anything else in this comment, let me ask you a question: have you actually read the entire document and honestly attempted to understand what marx (an ethnic jew) was getting at?

but, back to your overall post... especially the part about hitler "opposing materialism".

an elementary knowledge of marx (and i mean elementary as i'm no scholar myself) would reveal how goofy it is to attempt to link this hitler quote to marxist socialism.

what exactly is an anti-materialist marxist?! that doesn't even make any sense.

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