Just walked in and fandom had exploded?

[phoenixwish]

This is something I posted in a reply to Chris. I thought there might be other confused people on my flist and I have a pretty good idea of what went on in at least the first six hours of this things, as I was there as the posts came up. So here are some posts that might be a good starting point.

Here is a list of the dead suspended comms,

Comments

[lattara]

This situation is making me... nervous. I mean, personally I won't have a problem, but the fact is that people on my flist *do*. They do write (or have written) stories that contain illegal actions, which they of course warn for. But how can writing about something illegal be illegal, whether or not it's condoning the activity? *Ocean's Eleven* could be read as condoning illegal activities, and they've made *sequels* to that.

Rape, child abuse and incest is *wrong* and horrible, and if I ever had any knowledge about something like that, I would report it immediately. But. What about people who get off on pretending they're being raped? Or pretending they're raping someone? Who have sexual fantasies about a member of their family? And what if people write about it and choose to list those themes in their interests - why should they be targeted?

I'm mad and bewildered, but trying to stay calm.

[phoenixwish]

Exactly. Which is also why the LJ Abuse team initially responded with something along the lines of "we are not the thought police". WiF specifically mention fictional stories as something that shouldn't be allowed

[lattara]

I *know*. The reasons listed for deleting journals are so *broad* that, technically, mentioning illegal activities becomes a deleting offence.

I DO NOT CONDONE RAPE, INCEST, OR CHILD ABUSE. But the fact remains that *some* women and men who have taken part in an incestuous relationship have pleasant memories of it - they felt secure and safe exploring their sexuality with someone they knew intimately. It's not clear how much of this is due to not wanting to feel like they've been hurt, though, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.

[theblackscorpio]

Ooooooooooooooooohh, you're so in for deletion now O.O

[phoenixwish]

I don't think they're checking content right now, just sticking to the interests. :-)

[phoenixwish]

Ack, nevermind that comment. Me being tired = me unable to see humour.

*head-desk*

[lattara]

Oh noeeees!

[phoenixwish]

Damn it, I'm scared.

Apropos, Gramsci had a theory on hegemony which one of my Lit. lecturers talked about a slave narrative (I think it was written by a Harriet Jones) in which the main character apparently fell in love with her owner and had an affair with him - the point being that it was possible that she just told herself that so it wouldn't be rape.

Random thought on the difference between fiction and reality: I hear many people have rape fantasies, but I would be very surprised if *any* of them actually wanted to be raped for real. Same thing goes for the cest/underage I've written/read.

Am I making sense? I'm suddenly incredibly tired.

[lattara]

Sure you are. Actually, you're making my point for me. *grins*