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lady_rani April 27 2008, 11:02:11 UTC
Now, one of my first thoughts last night on seeing EvilClone!Martha was 'someone's got to do a fic on this where she seduces the Doctor'. Pers, I am looking at you. ;-)

Anyway, agreed with much of what you've said here actually. As funny as the pay off on the Doctor+Donna goodbye scene was, the whole thing seemed very out of place; rather 'too soon'. That said, maybe he's learned his lesson from his appalling treatment of Martha and is determined not to repeat his mistake.

The gun rant; again that was rather overcooked. When you watch back the Three episodes, he makes his point about guns in a far more subtle and effective way. That felt like lazy writing - 'let's just stick in a few line rant and we'll cover it that way'.

I love Wilf. I want him to be my grandad.

I loved the final shot as well, Ten standing in the street shrouded in poisoned fog.

So, did the clone put on Martha's ring? If not, I wonder if that's how Donna will suss her out.

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widgeon7 April 27 2008, 11:28:52 UTC
So, did the clone put on Martha's ring? If not, I wonder if that's how Donna will suss her out.

I had the same thought as you, so I watched again carefully with my hand on the pause button. Evil twin Martha does have all Martha's jewelry on, including (somewhat inexplicably) her earrings.

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persiflage_1 April 27 2008, 11:52:48 UTC
Ah, well spotted - I didn't notice...

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lady_rani April 27 2008, 16:50:22 UTC
Me neither. Well done!

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persiflage_1 April 27 2008, 11:40:35 UTC
Now, one of my first thoughts last night on seeing EvilClone!Martha was 'someone's got to do a fic on this where she seduces the Doctor'. Pers, I am looking at you. ;-)

Yup - that's going to be the third one of the five I'll be writing.

Anyway, agreed with much of what you've said here actually. As funny as the pay off on the Doctor+Donna goodbye scene was, the whole thing seemed very out of place; rather 'too soon'. That said, maybe he's learned his lesson from his appalling treatment of Martha and is determined not to repeat his mistake.

That's how I've just explained it in my freshly posted fic !

The gun rant; again that was rather overcooked. When you watch back the Three episodes, he makes his point about guns in a far more subtle and effective way. That felt like lazy writing - 'let's just stick in a few line rant and we'll cover it that way'.

Helen Raynor or Team Cardiff (probably RTD in fact) just doesn't get subtle AT ALL !!

I love Wilf. I want him to be my grandad.Oh and me - especially as I've loved Bernard Cribbins ( ... )

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lady_rani April 27 2008, 17:01:02 UTC
Oh yes, Bernard Cribbins for the WIN, certainly. I want to feed him beer and listen to his old war stories.

Doctor Who and subtlety do not go hand in hand these days. *sighs* I am just keeping everything crossed that they do not mess the next episode up.

With EvilClone!Martha having access to all of Good!Martha's thoughts and feelings, they have a great opportunity for the evil clone to let rip on Ten, without Martha's usual inhibitions, or concern for his feelings, and tell him exactly what's what. We shall see.

Looking forward to fic three of five with interest. ;-D

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persiflage_1 April 27 2008, 18:03:48 UTC
Doctor Who and subtlety do not go hand in hand these days. *sighs* I am just keeping everything crossed that they do not mess the next episode up.

Don't hold your breath !

With EvilClone!Martha having access to all of Good!Martha's thoughts and feelings, they have a great opportunity for the evil clone to let rip on Ten, without Martha's usual inhibitions, or concern for his feelings, and tell him exactly what's what. We shall see.

That's what I am thinking !!

Looking forward to fic three of five with interest. ;-D

Thanks (I've just re-watched the ep to make some notes for said fic !)

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