DWM Mighty 200 - Top Ten Watchathon: Human Nature (Family of Blood) (#6) Reaction Post

[persiflage_1]

Who_Daily Link: < a href="http://persiflage-1.livejournal.com/311737.html">DWM Mighty 200 - Top Ten Watchathon: #6 Reaction Post by < lj user=persiflage_1

Comments

[persiflage_1]

I think seeing Martha in her element rather than in the disguise she had to adopt in 1913 would have made a huge difference in the way Joan would treat her. Already in the episode she defers to her after the 'bones of the hand' smackdown. Big paradigm shifts often happen to people when they enter the Doctor's world. Donna became a completely different person. I think Joan would have to have been a particularly horrible/stupid person to remain stuck in her old ways and I don't think that she was.

Oh, I agree that Joan's not stupid. I don't know - I guess I just find the idea very uncomfortable. Martha had to put up with a hell of a lot for two and a half months, during which time John Smith and Joan either ignored her or treated her badly. I know Martha's selfless and got a generous heart, but I can't imagine it would've been easy for her to have Joan aboard, especially if Ten was trying to rekindle what John Smith felt for her. In Martha's shoes, I wouldn't have stuck around once Joan was aboard (mind you, in Martha's shoes, I'd have slapped John Smith a lot sooner than she did!)

[ibishtar]

I can't imagine it would've been easy for her to have Joan aboard
Absolutely! That's why when Martha said, so casually, that she would talk to Joan for the Doctor, if he wanted, I was completely bowled over. She's just such a good person. End of. But that's almost too selfless. I'm glad that at the end she began to value own happiness more.

[persiflage_1]

Oh yes! Best thing she ever did was to walk out on him when he badly wanted her to stay. Enough of the doormat, already!

Even though I don't buy the Mr Invisible Fiance (Husband?) of Invisibleness (mainly because it annoys me that we never see anything of this supposed romance), I'm glad that Martha is happy. I'd really like to see her in S5 - being oh-so-calm about meeting Eleven and Amy, and totally pwning yet again.

[ibishtar]

More Martha would be fantastic! She'd fit in with a different Doctor and companion no problem.
I'm the opposite then, I quite like that she hooked up with Tom. First, like you say, the happiness. Also, I liked him in LotTL: cute, moraled, brave, paediatrician? Yes please. Also, I like how she sought him out.
Would have been nice to see a bit more of them as a couple, but I understand why it hasn't happened so far.

[persiflage_1]

More Martha would be fantastic! She'd fit in with a different Doctor and companion no problem.

Absolutely! I'd quite like to see them meeting up, and Eleven being just the teeniest bit hurt that Martha's so unfazed by his change and Martha rolling her eyes and reminding him that she *does* work for UNIT! :D

I'm the opposite then, I quite like that she hooked up with Tom. First, like you say, the happiness. Also, I liked him in LotTL: cute, moraled, brave, paediatrician? Yes please. Also, I like how she sought him out.
Would have been nice to see a bit more of them as a couple, but I understand why it hasn't happened so far.

I've no objection to Tom in principle - although I'm fairly squicked by the idea of her getting together with a man who died for her, who knows nothing about that aspect of things. And strictly speaking, she can't tell him as she'll have signed the Official Secrets Act when she joined UNIT.

[ibishtar]

That's a good point; there's loads of stuff from work Martha probably can't tell Tom. Interesting! She knew that when she married him, though, so maybe she finds solace in that?
*after The Doctor's Daughter*
Tom: Martha... you're all covered in mud... what happened?
Martha:...never mind. But I could do with a foot massage.

[persiflage_1]

*after The Doctor's Daughter*
Tom: Martha... you're all covered in mud... what happened?
Martha:...never mind. But I could do with a foot massage.

Heh... Good job she cleaned up before she got home, really!