Meta-Crisis

[persiflage_1]

Who_Daily Link: < a href="http://persiflage-1.livejournal.com/311148.html">Meta-Crisis by < lj user=persiflage_1> (Characters: Martha, Ten, Human-Ten, Donna, Jack, Rose, Jackie, Mickey, Sarah Jane | Rating: PG-13 | Spoilers: 4.13

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[malicehaughton]

Martha sandwich! Hee! Agreed that Rose logic is fail, Donna is awesome and should be a Time Lady, and two Doctor's are better than one to have sex with XD

[persiflage_1]

A Martha sandwich is the tastiest sandwich there is! :P

Donna should definitely have been saved from the meta-crisis. I really couldn't believe Rusty's logic!fail in not using the damn device HE & Paul Cornell had come up with - and used twice!

Three Doctors, in fact - what with Martha being a Doctor too! :P

[malicehaughton]

Well, if you could get Donna in there, it would be a doctor foursome :P

[persiflage_1]

Not strictly speaking - she's not a Doctor, but she's not a Time Lord. And Handy's a human/Time Lord hybrid veering to the human side...

(I have probably spent way too much time thinking about this!)

[malicehaughton]

Her mind is what she got from the Doctor. It is the mind that makes the person. She's still got Donna in there, but also the Doctor, and it shows in the way she acted and talked after the metacrisis kicked in on her end.

And I love that icon by the way :P

[persiflage_1]

It's a brilliant icon, isn't it - makes me grin like a loon every time I see it...

Donna, though, is more Donna than Doctor. She got a dash of Ten when she touched the hand, whereas Handy is more Doctor than Donna, for all he came out with a human body.

[malicehaughton]

Definitely a grin worthy brilliant icon.

Hmm, I always saw it as her having both parts equally, or the Doctor more prominent. Hence her being the DoctorDonna.

I'm still going O_o over how wipng her memories would take it away. That's faulty logic. It wouldn't take it away. She just wouldn't know about it. By rights, they should have fixed her, or she should have burned (both I would prefer over what she got...)

[persiflage_1]

Definitely a grin worthy brilliant icon.

chambodia did a brilliant job...

Hmm, I always saw it as her having both parts equally, or the Doctor more prominent. Hence her being the DoctorDonna.

I suspect opinions vary!

I'm still going O_o over how wipng her memories would take it away. That's faulty logic. It wouldn't take it away. She just wouldn't know about it. By rights, they should have fixed her, or she should have burned (both I would prefer over what she got...)

Yeah, but logic's never been Rusty's strong suit. He had a logic!fail at least once a season (possibly once per episode he wrote, if the truth's known!)

[malicehaughton]

I still laugh every time the first thing we see Sky in Midnight do after being possessed was turn around to face them all, and lowering her arms, when she is not supposed to be able to move that much :P

[persiflage_1]

I know... As Chris Bidmead said in a DWM article recently, RTD is a first draft writer - anyone who'd bothered with more than one first draft of that script would've seen that mistake and corrected it...

[malicehaughton]

That is very, very true. I will be glad when he's gone. He may have brougth the show back, bu the really decided to screw it over as well.

And then there's Rose...the one who can not take a hint.

[persiflage_1]

And who is a big pink and yellow proof of Rusty's utter logic!fail what with two universes failing to explode when she returned. And I don't give a damn how many people pin the blame on Davros for Rose being able to return. I'm quite convinced that Caan wouldn't have been able to break through the Lock on the Time War if Rose hadn't been blasting the walls between the Universes with her bloody Dimension Cannon.

[malicehaughton]

I think that too :D About Caan only getting through the Time Lock because of Rose's utter stupidity. Anyone who thinks it is the other way around looks at Rose and doesn't listen to a word that comes out of her mouth.

[persiflage_1]

Exactly! I mean, she starts with 'So?' in response to the warning Ten gives her, and goes from there...

[scarfman]

The more I think about this the more I disagree with it and believe you're taking a casual remark too seriously. Yes, Rose can be very selfish: look at her scene with Elton. But she is also very empathic and compassionate: look at her scene with Elton.
When she said, "So?", she may have been joking; or she may for that moment have genuinely meant it, the way Jackie's hurt feelings were momentarily more important than Elton at the mercy of what's-its-name from Klom. But I don't see evidence that Rose is irrational enough to sustain a belief for any period of time that she could destroy two universes to get back to the Doctor without and making him hate her (prolly bring on Time War flashbacks). It just plain wouldn't've got her what she wanted either, that being "forever" with him; that's difficult to have in the dying throes of the universe.
Beyond that, out-text, it makes no logic as a story. Mary Sues saves universes. "I'll destroy both universes so we can be together!" is a villain's motivation.
When Rose is in your stories,

[persiflage_1]

I'm sorry, but I disagree. SHE BUILT A DIMENSION CANNON AND USED IT REPEATEDLY.

In WHAT way is this good?

As I've said before, elsewhere, if she was just desperate to get a message to the Doctor about the 'stars going out' (which I'm not convinced was NOT her fault), then she could've got a message to Sarah Jane and/or UNIT - she knew both of them existed and that they were or could be in contact with the Doctor - but NO, she repeatedly bounces back and forth between the dimsions like she's just taking the Tube down to Bond Street.

THAT is not the action of a selfless person. THAT is the action of a young woman who only cares that she gets what she wants - which is to see the Doctor again. That's why I write her as a villain - because she's behaving like one.

If you don't like my portrayal of Rose, might I suggest you avoid those stories in which she appears?