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May 08, 2023 23:06


There is a Denethor discussion on TORN and i'm just fascinated by the descent of Denethor BOOKVERSE. http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=1002471; ( Read more... )

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elwenlj May 9 2023, 09:52:43 UTC
I have always found the relationship between the three very difficult to unravel, and usually took the easy way out by attributing it all to the palantir. That, of course, is problematic, because issues appear to have started long before that thing began to have much effect.

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periantari May 20 2023, 19:17:18 UTC

I think it goes all the way to Finduilas' death perhaps that has made Denethor the description you see in Tolkien's text. I always want to be talking about book! Denethor for his descent was explained better and it was less drastic of a madman you see via PJ. (everyone wanted to hate Denethor movie!Verse but that was unfair depiction.

The palantir is one reason, probably despair from Boromir's death, despair at Faramir's almost death and he probably was hopeless after seeing that Gondor was clearly outnumbered.

I like to think that Denethor's death is Tolkien's attempt to make the story seem clear that change was needed and a new King could give Gondor that.

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