The Queen's Consort and his Wife

[peppermintyrose]

Such is this time of year that I am most likely to leave the fandom. This is the third year in a row, and can't it be over now? The Sookie hate, and the complaints about the books drive me up the wall. I almost left this time last year - so I'm not really talking anywhere but here, where I can blast the hell out of negative Nellies in the

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[vampangel79]

I miss the HP fandom and the HP books. It was a lot more sane. And let's face it, the books were a lot superior

[thyradane]

I agree with you on the "good Christian" thing. It would be an entirely weird and probably offensive thing to say here. I liked that she mentioned in passing that you can actually be a good person without being Christian, but most of the time that`s not what we hear.

But I write that off as a cultural thing. Sookie`s brought up with "Christian values". So am I, probably, but we call it something else.

I think it`s important in our understanding of Sookie. She is trying to hold onto something. Something that`s hers, something she thinks is right. And it`s just not possible in a vampire world.

[peppermintyrose]

I don't agree that the HP books were superior, actually. There was never this much subtext in HP - there was a lot of mythology and symbolism, but not emotional and political subtext

[vampangel79]

And I need to learn to reread and preview my comments. The amount of errors above is astounding. Sorry about that, I'm just lazy and I tend to type really fast.

[vampangel79]

Oh, I don't want to bash Sookie or to make this a place where I bitch about Sookie. I just wanted to say that I don't find her a perfect character and that she can annoy me as well. I apologize if I said something that offended you. This is your house and I'll abide by your rules.

[peppermintyrose]

I don't find her perfect, I find her human. But Sookie's onto something with her "accepting people as they are" jag; Christian or not. She rarely gets the same consideration from those around her, let alone from readers who choose to read about her.

[vampangel79]

I agree with that. I think it's a human thing also to judge others, although it certainly isn't a good thing. I might be judging her harshly sometimes, but I just can't help it. We all bring our own history and backgrounds when reading a book. My bias and own issues are all over it. But although I say she annoys me from time to time, I do cheer for her and wish her the best.

[vampangel79]

OH, and I don't mean it is unfair that we can't complain about Sookie here, as I said this is your house and you make the rules. What I meant was in general, that once you complain about anything about Sookie, everyone tends to think you mean Eric is perfect, which couldn't be farther form the truth. People just love to bitch about Sookie and use it as an argument as to how Eric is too good for her (WTF?). I just meant to say that I don't agree with that line of thinking. In no way, shape or form I think Eric is this great guy, even though I can sometimes complain about Sookie. But one thin is not related to another. Sookie being imperfect in my view, does not mean Eric is perfect, why would it? You know what I mean? That's why I'm so careful as where I can express my views, so I'm not misunderstood.

[peppermintyrose]

It's why I don't allow it at all. Once something bad is said about Sookie, everyone swarms around for a good bitch session. And then we're back to St. Eric. I freaking hate St. Eric.

I can't really take a fairer line with Sookie and Eric, because really, this is one of the *only* places, if not the *only* place where Sookie bashing will get you a smackdown. People can't find anything but "Sookie should do this" everywhere else. It's not as if it's not countered by a million "Eric is right always" comments.

[vampangel79]

Ok, I get it. It makes sense, and as I said it's your house and I'll abide by the rules. No more Sookie complaining from me! (I won't even call it Sookie bashing, because that was not what I meant). My lips are sealed in this aspect, although I can guarantee I'll rant on other subjects. I just can't seem to shut up online or in real life.

Sorry again if I offended, because it was so not my intention. I do like it here, otherwise I wouldn't have come.

[peppermintyrose]

There's always an element of control of what you put online though - rather than your thoughts.

[vampangel79]

What do you mean?

I find that it's lot easier to be misunderstood online than in real life, since there isn't a tone of voice or facial expressions to help someone else understand you. Sometimes I even worry if I'm expressing myself the right way, since English is not my first language, although I think my English is quite good.

I just been feeling kind of lost in the SVM fandom for a long time. I just don't seem able to find my niche you know? I'm not into fics anymore. I found fanfic right after From Dead to Worse came out, but since them a lot has changed...It's all weird now, sadly.

[peppermintyrose]

You can think what you like, but taking the time to type it out to others requires effort.

I know what you mean about the difficulty of the niche. There's not much of a middle ground.

[vampangel79]

That's one of my problems in real life. I have a huge mouth. I can never shut up and I tend to say whatever crosses my mind without thinking. Online sometimes I'm also guilty of that. I'll start writing about one thing and then my mind will go on a tangent and my fingers will follow and I'll type it all, and I never reread what I write, which is a big mistake. I got into huge binds in the Buffy fandom some years ago, without meaning to. I'm 32, so I should have learned by now, but apparently I haven't. ;)

[vampangel79]

Maybe the HP weren't superior, I haven't really ever stopped to considered one series against the other, but I do personally prefer the HP books. I love them madly. I'm a huge HP fan girl, so I'm biased.

[peppermintyrose]

They're different in the kinds of depth that they have. HP went for easy answers ethically - there was never a question if it was right to murder Voldemort - it was just assumed. I like that SVM doesn't draw the line so hard, and Sookie doesn't just go apeshit on anyone who doesn't fall into line with her thinking.

HP was an allegory for Nazi Germany, so I liked it fine. I never had to dig so much for character motivation, and the characters were rather simple.