Why did I do that?

Dec 18, 2007 12:06

I posted on a wank-heavy thread today.

*rolls eyes*  Normally I try to stay away from this crap.

At any rate, I know that occasionally I get the anonymous positive feeback here, but for now, I'm going to screen all anonymous posts, just to be on the safe side.

Rhetorical question: When wank won't matter in 5 years, does it matter today?

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pen37 December 18 2007, 20:38:06 UTC
I haven't been trolled yet, and I'm not going to. This is my place, I'm paying for it, and I have a responsiblity to make it a plesant place for people to visit.

Superman has always been a pretty formulistic story. Super hero vs. super villian with a super snoop girl sidekick to make life interesting and hard for him.

If you look at it from that angle, they all started out as the lois archetype. And the whole reason that Chloe was invented is that AlMiles wanted to reinvent lana. Without lana as the girl sidekick archetype, they had to fill the hole somewhere. Hence Chloe.

The whole reason that Chloe didn't go the way of pete, the one note expositon girl, I think, is a testamant to Allison Mack and her acting skills.

We've seen that both Lex and Allison, who had much more acting experience than Tom and Kristin, had onscreen chemestry Like Woah. I always thought that was a function of their acting experience more than anything.

So I wonder how the show would have been different if Allsion had gone ahead and tried out for the Lana character. Or if Jensen Ackles had been the pick for Clark.

Just things that make me go hmmmmm.

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legendarytobes December 18 2007, 23:14:34 UTC
Amen to that. That's exactly as it should be, I've learned.

See, I always thought and had heard in the Pilot commentary that Chloe was chosen to be the proto-Lois. They sort of remodeled Lana (who I thought was the one with the crush ON Clark in the comics, not the other way around) as the unobtainable love interest/girl next door that the nerd fantasizes about. One of the first season writers has an LJ and she commented that they originally were writing Lana in the vein of Charlie Brown's little redhead girl whom he likes and pursues but never really ends up with and that then the network stepped in and Lana got promoted for a role much more like Pete and Chloe's to what she's become.

I always felt like the plan had been make KK Katie Holmes and make Lana the be all and end-all love interest which, of course, heavily conflicts with the friend sidekick role if she's to be idealized.

Exactly, Allison is so engaging (even when she is doing the awful bitch pining of S2 which clearly AM hated since she's tried to steer away or underplay said pining ever since) that her role just kept growing. It's kind of something that happens in the Buffyverse all the time. Spike was never supposed to survive after "What' My Line" let alone become Buffy's LI in the later seasons, but JM is so watchable that they couldn't get rid of him. Ditto to supposed limited run or one shot characters like Anya/Emma Caufield or Faith/Eliza Dushku. Sometimes the sheer charisma of the actors allows the character to catch on.

Chloe is clearly a case of that. If they'd really wanted to write her off the show and start full out Lois pimping, one would have thought that her safe house explosion would have kept her dead thus bringing in the perfect avenue for Lois.

Of course, they didn't do that, although, on the same note, I sincerely hope her Pod-issues over the last year and a half (it's not constant, I don't think but it's about a 35-65 shot she'll show up) is not a complete indication that she'll finally be chased out of journalism altogether.

Mike and Allison are phenomenal together and have been since her "Kinetic" interview early in S1. I think it might be the biggest crime in the show's history that the Cluthoropolis story arc was just summarily dropped, Lex and Chloe became enemies without explanation, and S4 focused on Lana's role as SuperWitch and Jason (I love Jensen. I really, really do and I enjoyed football coach!Jason. Creepy Oedipal!Jason and his stone struggles bored me to tears. To this day when I watch S4, I watch any Kents, Chlark, Lois, Shelby scenes (whatever) and skip anything with Jasana and Lex and the stones. Double for Dr. Quinn stuff).

If life had been fair, Chloe would have become the girl between Clark and Lex and we'd have seen her spar much more than she has with him over the years because, honestly, when those two characters and actors go at it, it's amazing.

How funny would that have been if somehow AM had been Lana and JA Clark. That would have made that pairing bearable perhaps. However, AlMiles have proven that they can make even JA boring as cardboard with crappy enough lines.

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pen37 December 18 2007, 23:38:09 UTC
I've always thought never goes far with the DCU, because they Retcon things every ten years or so. Is there a multiverse? Is there not a Multiverse? Which version of Supergirl is this? Does Clark have a crush on Lana, or does Lana have a crush on Clark? Is pa kent dead, or alive?

Smallville is like the co-dependent ex boyfriend that I can't quit. I dropped it after the slutty french witches, only to pick it back up after the Chlark kiss, only to drop it again with the Chlimmy breakup and the way they screwed up Lois' characterization.

*shakes head*

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legendarytobes December 19 2007, 01:49:00 UTC
Yet, you still heart Chloe, I see. I need to catch up on Special Projects. Fun Xmas times ahead, I can see it.

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pen37 December 19 2007, 04:22:47 UTC
That's because I adore strong female characters. Natalie Lambert, Sydney Bristow, Buffy. Heck, All of Joss' female characters, THLois, DCU verse lois.

Particularly the well-acted ones who deserve to be well written.

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