Re: what's the point?_deicide_September 6 2005, 18:10:20 UTC
just a note, chickens aren't dairy, last I checked. Anyway, There are alternatives to the way most Americans raise their chickens. Free Range chickens are much healthier, and produce larger, better eggs than chickens kept permanently in a coop. And so far as I know, I've never seen a dairy cow mistreated, since that tends to reduce milk yields. Also, the increased amounts of milk that we get from cows these days are due to selectively breeding the cows that gave the most milk. The amount of milk we take from them is actually helpful, because their calves don't drink all of it (just ask any nursing mother).
Meat isn't bad for you, if eaten in a balanced diet. of course too much meat is bad for you, but so is too much peanut butter, or too many potatoes.
In a way, you actually are a predator. Humans are classified as omnivores, eating both plants (using their molars), and meat (with incisors and canines). Now, food is a necessity, and I'll bet that if you didn't have thousands of people in the food processing industries making food for you, you would be eating meat, since keeping some animals is much easier than growing crops. and killing is killing, whether it is painful or not.
I have a question though: would you be willing to kill something to prolong your existence?
Re: what's the point?peaches5446September 7 2005, 03:34:03 UTC
"just a note, chickens aren't dairy, last I checked."
Chickens aren't. Eggs are considered dairy though.
"There are alternatives to the way most Americans raise their chickens. Free Range chickens are much healthier, and produce larger, better eggs than chickens kept permanently in a coop."
Free range chickens are better treated, yes. Would I eat one? Nope.
"And so far as I know, I've never seen a dairy cow mistreated, since that tends to reduce milk yields."
Both great sites, very informative. I could go on and on and on about this point, but I'll let the sites do it for me.
"The amount of milk we take from them is actually helpful, because their calves don't drink all of it (just ask any nursing mother)."
Actually, calves don't get most of it. Male calves are generally worthless except as veal. Female calves are seperated with their mothers very soon after birth to become dairy cows also.
"Meat isn't bad for you, if eaten in a balanced diet. of course too much meat is bad for you, but so is too much peanut butter, or too many potatoes. "
Yes, any diet of just one food is considered unhealthy. However meat contains cholesterol, large amounts of fat, growth hormones, antibacterial drugs, pesticides, and herbicides.
"In a way, you actually are a predator. Humans are classified as omnivores, eating both plants (using their molars), and meat (with incisors and canines)."
Actually, humans have short, thin fingernails, relatively small incisors, long digestive tracts, and the lack of an acid that typically digests protein in carnivores. We're far more herbivorous than carnivorous.
"I have a question though: would you be willing to kill something to prolong your existence?"
This, I don't know. I thought I was this great humanitarian until today, when I realized that I'm just as selfish and self serving as anyone else. In light of that, yes, probably, but I don't know for sure.
Throw some more statements at me. I've done my homework, and this is fun!
Re: A Great Human and Humanistla_riposteSeptember 7 2005, 04:06:17 UTC
"'I have a question though: would you be willing to kill something to prolong your existence?'
This, I don't know. I thought I was this great humanitarian until today, when I realized that I'm just as selfish and self serving as anyone else. In light of that, yes, probably, but I don't know for sure."
You're so damnably selfish to waste time criticizing your alleged selfishness (so as to cure it), you know.
Your criticism, you know, undoes your theory. If you have extra time, please, I'd like for you to read An Attack of Nerves by Anton Chekhov. Call me when you will. I love you, beautiful person.
Meat isn't bad for you, if eaten in a balanced diet. of course too much meat is bad for you, but so is too much peanut butter, or too many potatoes.
In a way, you actually are a predator. Humans are classified as omnivores, eating both plants (using their molars), and meat (with incisors and canines). Now, food is a necessity, and I'll bet that if you didn't have thousands of people in the food processing industries making food for you, you would be eating meat, since keeping some animals is much easier than growing crops. and killing is killing, whether it is painful or not.
I have a question though: would you be willing to kill something to prolong your existence?
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Chickens aren't. Eggs are considered dairy though.
"There are alternatives to the way most Americans raise their chickens. Free Range chickens are much healthier, and produce larger, better eggs than chickens kept permanently in a coop."
Free range chickens are better treated, yes. Would I eat one? Nope.
"And so far as I know, I've never seen a dairy cow mistreated, since that tends to reduce milk yields."
http://www.farmedanimal.net/Newsletters/Newslettern4v2.htm
or
http://b33tl3bum.tripod.com/dairycattle.html
Both great sites, very informative. I could go on and on and on about this point, but I'll let the sites do it for me.
"The amount of milk we take from them is actually helpful, because their calves don't drink all of it (just ask any nursing mother)."
Actually, calves don't get most of it. Male calves are generally worthless except as veal. Female calves are seperated with their mothers very soon after birth to become dairy cows also.
"Meat isn't bad for you, if eaten in a balanced diet. of course too much meat is bad for you, but so is too much peanut butter, or too many potatoes. "
Yes, any diet of just one food is considered unhealthy. However meat contains cholesterol, large amounts of fat, growth hormones, antibacterial drugs, pesticides, and herbicides.
"In a way, you actually are a predator. Humans are classified as omnivores, eating both plants (using their molars), and meat (with incisors and canines)."
Actually, humans have short, thin fingernails, relatively small incisors, long digestive tracts, and the lack of an acid that typically digests protein in carnivores. We're far more herbivorous than carnivorous.
"I have a question though: would you be willing to kill something to prolong your existence?"
This, I don't know. I thought I was this great humanitarian until today, when I realized that I'm just as selfish and self serving as anyone else. In light of that, yes, probably, but I don't know for sure.
Throw some more statements at me. I've done my homework, and this is fun!
~C.
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This, I don't know. I thought I was this great humanitarian until today, when I realized that I'm just as selfish and self serving as anyone else. In light of that, yes, probably, but I don't know for sure."
You're so damnably selfish to waste time criticizing your alleged selfishness (so as to cure it), you know.
Your criticism, you know, undoes your theory. If you have extra time, please, I'd like for you to read An Attack of Nerves by Anton Chekhov. Call me when you will. I love you, beautiful person.
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