And then the captain should return the plane back to NY, as they do when people start arguing -- not even fighting -- over reclining seats. And people in the isles refusing to take their seats is a safety impediment.
Apparently, the captain demanded that they sit down during take off and they complied. The flight was completely packed, as many were traveling to Israel to celebrate the New Year. However, once in the air, they got out of the seats and stood for 11 hours straight! Extreme dedication to religion. Such insanity I will never understand.
Honestly, I don't think I would have moved for even a large sum of money. My pride is worth more than that. But I can't say for sure. If they had waved $1,000 in my face perhaps I would have done it. :)
I tried to think what would happen on a U.S. airline. The plane would have definitely been returned. We return flights over everything - minor disturbances and unruly passengers included! I would consider these men to fall into both of those categories. I doubt I would be able to control my temper if I was on the flight, and one of them spoke to me in a condescending manner.
I've flown El Al. But it was years ago when I was 16. I remember some Hasidim on the plane, but I don't remember them getting special treatment. By the way, there is a difference between being Orthodox and Hasidim. Hasidim are eastern European Jews entrenched in the the 18th century. Their clothing and mannerism are very similar to the extreme protestantism of the Amish. Also from Germany. Must be the water in Germany, LOL! It's more of a cult following. They are followers of a particular rabbi. I'm Orthodox too, but I'm western European and totally different in culture.
By the way, when I flew there (at 16) they still had tough security. I remember being targeted. I was singled out from the usual group of people trying get on the plane. I later found out the lone, single young women got extra security examination because sometimes a "boyfriend" will hand over a suitcase with a bomb on it to the lone girlfriend. As in the Pan Am Lockerbie bombing. Talk about being profiled!
I also got pulled to the side by Israeli security in Tel Aviv. I'm not sure why, I think my Belarusian visa caused suspicion. They did not understand where the visa was from and asked me a lot of questions about it. Then, they moved me to a separate room and every single item was taken out of my carry on and checked bags, a magic wand was waved over all the items, and then I was asked all kinds of questions about past travel. Btw, how can you tell the difference between a Hasidic and Orthodox Jew? Do they wear different hats or clothes?
Hasidim wear the same long coat and hat that was the fashion during during the late 1700's in the area of Russia/Polish border. They are followers of a particular Rabbi. I mean, all a Jewish man (or woman) that are Orthodox wear clothing to be modest. Longer skirts, elbow length sleeves (or longer). Men must cover their heads all the time. Inside or outside of prayer. They might thing of God when they are not praying.That's why the Pope wears a Yamaka. Married women too. Single women can go around outside without any covering. Same thing with Islamic men and women. The exception, Islamic unmarried women still have to have a head covering. Again the reason is be be modest, plus a head covering shows your respect for God. Hair is sexual. It has always been that way. Monotheistic God is asexual. It has no place in worship, only in marriage. Even though Marriage is secular in Judaism and Islam. Only in Christianity, is marriage a sacrament.
Interesting, thanks. I asked because there were some men in Jerusalem wearing huge, furry hats (not the traditional black ones), and I thought they must belong to a particular branch of Judaism. I don't know how they wear such garments in the blazing desert sun and heat!
they should learn something from arabs how to deal with stubborn women: they just dont allow women to travel without a superviser (husband or father)! and arabs are pretty successful in this: there are few arab countries where women could say or do smth against the will of men))))
Stubborn? Sitting in an assigned airline seat is stubborn? I don't think so. :)) Btw, isn't it a boring existence to have a woman do everything you ask or demand? Where's the challenge, stimulation or intrigue in that?
I knew you were joking because you put smiley faces at the end of your sentences. Otherwise, I would have thought you were serious. Because some men are centuries behind in mentality, and still want a woman to simply obey their commands. Cook, clean, pop out babies, more sex...and nothing else. :)
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I've flown El Al. But it was years ago when I was 16. I remember some Hasidim on the plane, but I don't remember them getting special treatment. By the way, there is a difference between being Orthodox and Hasidim. Hasidim are eastern European Jews entrenched in the the 18th century. Their clothing and mannerism are very similar to the extreme protestantism of the Amish. Also from Germany. Must be the water in Germany, LOL! It's more of a cult following. They are followers of a particular rabbi. I'm Orthodox too, but I'm western European and totally different in culture.
By the way, when I flew there (at 16) they still had tough security. I remember being targeted. I was singled out from the usual group of people trying get on the plane. I later found out the lone, single young women got extra security examination because sometimes a "boyfriend" will hand over a suitcase with a bomb on it to the lone girlfriend. As in the Pan Am Lockerbie bombing. Talk about being profiled!
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