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peacetraveler22 May 30 2014, 15:17:56 UTC
You are not scared of a woman with a gun? :))

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peacetraveler22 May 30 2014, 15:25:10 UTC
Seriously!?! You're waiting for a prostitute to arrive? I also support worldwide legalization of the oldest profession in the world. So enjoy! :)

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girlspell May 30 2014, 15:20:08 UTC
There really isn't anything you can do. Guns are allowed and I'm glad. We are protected in the constitution. Most shooting happen by people that are mentally ill. There are safe guards. This latest shooter was examined before by mental health experts. But mental illness is not understood very well. They slip through. He was able to purchase a gun legally. I'm not that much of a fan by the NRA. They are more for gun manufacturers then actual gun owners. But they are typical of all lobbying groups. They are there and it's legal. Crime wise, most guns are stolen. Still the track listing of how guns change ownership is a good crime tool. I'm not sure how it is for gun ownerships outside the U.S. I have no idea what countries they are allowed or not allowed to have a weapon.

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peacetraveler22 May 30 2014, 16:52:26 UTC
I agree, the real problem is the person, not the gun. The NRA is the most powerful lobby group in America, that's why laws are so slow to change. All politicians, even Democrats who usually favor tighter gun restrictions, are scared of them. I don't know international gun laws either, it varies so much across the globe. But I remember reading Yemen is second to U.S. in civilian gun ownership.

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girlspell May 30 2014, 17:09:00 UTC
The NRA indeed is very, very powerful. They hold more power then the president. By far the most powerful of any organization in the history of the United States. Politicians (those that want to stay in office) live in fear of them. Even some gun owners are afraid of them. So far, all presidents have cowed in front of them. What does that tell you?

Yemen is lawless and run by clan leaders. I remember a war in Yemen (around the 1970's) between the north and south. I can't remember which half won. But it doesn't matter who is president. He has no power. All private weapons are banned in China. They were very easy to crush during the Tiananmen Square revolt. That kind of danger is the only reason why the constitution allowed citizens to arm themselves.

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seadevil001 August 10 2014, 01:27:10 UTC
Pharm industry has most powerful lobbyists, I guess. NRA has widest people base. I am Life Member of NRA, BTW.

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anonymus May 30 2014, 15:45:57 UTC
Great Russian sings said: "Rifle is a celebration!" :)
It`s true.

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peacetraveler22 May 30 2014, 16:52:49 UTC
What about laws in Russia? A private citizen can own a rifle for non-hunting purposes?

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anonymus May 30 2014, 18:42:38 UTC
How would not, actually yes. Fine point :) Like all Russian legislation.

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iravra May 31 2014, 09:02:20 UTC
Unfortunately, no. Rifles can be owned only by professional hunters or sport shooters, or by non-professional hunters/sport shooters (if the latter have possessed a shotgun for 5 years). But hunting card is very easy to obtain - actually, you will not even be asked questions about hunting. Though, you have to collect some other documents to obtain a gun license. One must be at least 18 years of age to possess a firearm, subjects of federation (like "states" in the US) can lower age to obtain hunting license for no more than 2 years.
But shotguns can be possessed with so-called "self-defense" license. Such shotguns can only be kept at home and it is a violation of a law to carry them even in hunting areas. The process of obtaining this license is the same compared to the hunting one, except that hunting card is not needed.

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fesma94 May 30 2014, 15:47:48 UTC
Definitely good to own gun! But more important to have proper laws,to protect gunner who protect own property and life.

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peacetraveler22 May 30 2014, 16:54:21 UTC
Are there strict gun laws in Israel, I have no idea? Private citizens can own any type of weapon, or no? I certainly know all soldiers have them because I encountered so many during my trip at all of the checkpoints. :) And they all look like little kids carrying these huge weapons as a means of intimidation.

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fesma94 May 30 2014, 19:47:20 UTC
Private citizens can own any type of weapon, or no? (c)
No so easy to get permission as in US and our idiotic liberal laws makers are care about vermins life more than about citizens. That is absurd !

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seadevil001 August 10 2014, 01:32:38 UTC
Yes, Israel has very strict gun laws. If one is living on "territories" he/she can have and carry gun. No limits on semi or full auto, whatever. But for citizens it is hard to get carry license, almost impossible. One can buy pistol/rifle but have to keep it at home.
Hunting is almost nonexistent and no interest in shotguns therefore.

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petro_witch May 30 2014, 15:47:53 UTC
Actually 3 of 6 were killed by a knife and 2 of 6 were killed by his car. So, 7 people were injured by the shooting and 1 of these 7 is died. I'm wondering why all mass media are talking about guns? Why not about knives or cars?

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south_of_broad May 30 2014, 16:05:55 UTC
Simple! They would have to admit " guns don't kill, people do ."

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peacetraveler22 May 30 2014, 16:57:53 UTC
This is a common analogy used by pro-gun activists. What about all the innocent victims killed by drunk drivers each year, yet people don't try to abolish automobile ownership!! It's a good comparison in my view. There's a constant debate in American mass media, especially after a tragedy like this. And, in this instance, one of the victim's fathers made a very passionate and heart wrenching appeal to law makers for tighter regulations. You can find his interview online.

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qi_tronic May 30 2014, 19:01:24 UTC
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yet people don't try to abolish automobile ownership!!
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Yet.

I think some time after Google driverless car enter the market some people would start to talk about banning people from driving cars without AI assistance.

In fact driving cars is totally ridiculous. You cannot distract your attention from the road even for a second.
And hundreds of millions people spend some time of their life in such a way every day moving close to each other at high speed.

Of course ot fun to drive something from time to time as recreational activity.
But on a regular basis I prefer when a train transports me from A to B and I can meditate, recite a mantra, read, etc. :)

And the same for gun control. People should be taken off of any means to be dangerous for each other, even potentially.

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