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mendaciloquent October 23 2007, 20:07:28 UTC
This is almost as entertaining as the time you tried to translate Nietzsche into wiener-code.

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paulhope October 23 2007, 23:54:37 UTC
I'm glad somebody gets the joke.

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mendaciloquent October 24 2007, 01:11:43 UTC
The thing about software engineering being a new mode of production was rather cute, too.

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paulhope October 24 2007, 02:47:25 UTC
Thanks! You're being unusually generous. It seems like you are happy in your new home; I'm glad for you.

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mendaciloquent October 24 2007, 12:50:18 UTC
How chummy.

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paulhope October 24 2007, 13:07:16 UTC
Why not?

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mendaciloquent October 24 2007, 16:29:30 UTC
Because it's contrived and vaguely repulsive?

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paulhope October 24 2007, 19:47:31 UTC
Nope. That's not right.

Don't project the chip on your shoulder onto me. I'm genuinely happy for you. It's great that you are in a beautiful place this time of year, etc.

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mendaciloquent October 25 2007, 13:18:44 UTC
If your exuberance is sincere, I find it cloying. If it is not, I find it unctuous. In your social milieu, it may be the case that one requires a chip on one's shoulder to be respectfully reserved toward people one does not know. But it is not so in mine.

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paulhope October 25 2007, 14:32:31 UTC
That's funny. I tend to err on the side of being respectfully reserved, myself. However, it's you who first crossed that line. Repeatedly. We are well past the point of formal pronouns, IMHO. Your affectations to the contrary are absurd, especially here. If you don't like that, go away. Nobody forced you into this conversation, and you don't have to worry about saving face. I won't impinge on your comfort zone on your own turf.

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mendaciloquent October 25 2007, 17:00:41 UTC
You asked me why one wouldn't want to converse in a particular way. I gave you my opinion as to why.

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paulhope October 26 2007, 02:25:52 UTC
That's true. But you also implicitly accused me of being insincere, and then suggested that I don't know you well enough to be unreserved in my communication with you. And beyond answering the merely formal question of "one" wouldn't want to converse "in a particular way," you also expressed your concrete repulsion, etc.

Hence my previous comment, which addressed some of those other things. Don't pretend like it's unreasonable. You're ballsy enough to not have to hide like that, right?

As I said, you're being unusually generous, even now, which I appreciate and take as a token of good faith. The notion of hospitality doesn't really make any sense in this context, but to the extent that there's an analogue, you're welcome here. But there's a lot of your normal bullshit that I'll have to ask you to leave at the door, and if you don't like that you really can just go away. I sure as hell won't stop you.

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mendaciloquent October 26 2007, 15:52:13 UTC
I appreciate where you're coming from, but to be honest, I'm too lazy to devote much thought to what paulhope might or might not consider "normal bullshit", especially when such editorial powers are fully at your command. I guess I just don't see what the big deal is. I'll comment here if I want to, and I'll kindly leave all further micromanagement to you.

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