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So last night I was standing by myself at Carindale after dinner just watching people walk past, thinking about stuff. I was really doing some good thinking cause the past couple of days haven't been too flash, when all of a sudden this lady with a broken accent taps me on the shoulder.
Now, most of you know I'm a pretty shy person, but I've been working on that for a while now and normal when some random person taps me on the shoulder I shit my pants. But this time I was actually quite excited, because I knew what was about to happen.
This lady, awkwardly introduced herself as Madge. She was about mid 40's, reasonably attractive and probably from Pacatic Island 'stock'. She also told me she was a Minister of the Church. 'Fuckin Aye,' I thought, this is going to be fun.
Now usually, when you have church types approach you and start preaching shit, they get the impression that they're a tad loopy. But this lady was a smart one. She told me she had gradutated from UQ with a Psych degree (which intrigued me, as I am thinking of doing that exact same course) and she approached the 'preaching' in a very delicate matter. She tried to get down on my 'level' telling me she was 'obviously very bored' and wanted to chat. I was however intially put off because she thought I was 15. That kinda pissed me off.
Anyway, we chat.. rather, she spoke to me about various things. About 'meeting' Jesus Christ, Jesus being the one True God.. etc etc. and I'm getting a be peaved, because I hate this arrogance in religion. She asked me if I've had and religious influences in my life and I told her my last girlfriend was quite devoted to her faith while we dated. Then she asked me what religion. I said Baha'i, to which she replied, "ahh, Baha'i, there bad." This got me fuming. And she went on about how all these other people have got it wrong and aren't following the right path. I was getting really angry until finally she asked me if this was making sense to me. I told her, yes to a degree I understand what you're saying and I agree with some of your view points. To which she smiled and said but?
Now I was at a difficult point. Right then and there, in the middle of Carindale I could begin a religious debate with a complete stranger. I remember someone once told me, never talk to strangers about Politics or religion, as it always turns ugly. So I'm standing there and I grinned back. She said 'Come on, you can tell me, I have 2 kids, I can take what you say.'
So I said, 'I really can't stand the ignorance of people like you who say that your God is the only true god and everyone elses beliefs and faiths are wrong.' She then smiled and told me this story about how a Muslim man she knew (and she stressed to me that it was a Muslim man) once was at a real low point of his life spiritually and sat a chair in the middle of his room and asked Allah, to come and sit with him to prove that he was following the right path. After an hour of nothing happening, this guy asked some other god to come and sit. Still nothing happened, then she said finally this dude asked Jesus Christ to come and sit in the room and she said that instantly he felt this joy surround him.
Now, at this point Mitch came and interupted us, but I was so eager to continue talking to this lady, because she really she'd like an intelligent person and although a little ignorant, seemed to want to listen to what I was saying.
She also told me about her life before becoming a christian. She was in the middle of a failing marriage and her daughter had made several attempts at her on life and she told me how one day, she just broke and took herself and her daughter to church one day. She told me how this minister there asked the room if anyone wanted to meet Jesus Christ. She said her daughter put her hand up and she could she a change right then in her daughters attitude and outlook in life. She said she asked her what prompted her to put her hand up and she said she felt this 'wave of joy' surround her while the minister was preaching and she told me that it was Jesus Christ. She also said that she knew her daughter was cured at this point.
NOW... FUCK!! Shes a Psychiatrist!!! And she standing there telling me her daughter is 'cured' of some suicide disease because she had a ruch of blood to the head. I couldn't believe this. I really wish I had brought this up with her, but I only thought of it later.
Anyway, this was just a regurgatation of my thoughts, I haven't editted this or reread it, so it probably doesn't make sense. I just wanted to post this. It's just, this chat got me thinking about stuff. Maybe, I'm the arrogant one, even if she is a little misguided. Maybe she has meet God in her own way. What ever the outcome, it was a good thing that happened. It got me thinking about myself and things I haven't thought about in a while. So yeah, take what you want from this. Goodnight.
Now, most of you know I'm a pretty shy person, but I've been working on that for a while now and normal when some random person taps me on the shoulder I shit my pants. But this time I was actually quite excited, because I knew what was about to happen.
This lady, awkwardly introduced herself as Madge. She was about mid 40's, reasonably attractive and probably from Pacatic Island 'stock'. She also told me she was a Minister of the Church. 'Fuckin Aye,' I thought, this is going to be fun.
Now usually, when you have church types approach you and start preaching shit, they get the impression that they're a tad loopy. But this lady was a smart one. She told me she had gradutated from UQ with a Psych degree (which intrigued me, as I am thinking of doing that exact same course) and she approached the 'preaching' in a very delicate matter. She tried to get down on my 'level' telling me she was 'obviously very bored' and wanted to chat. I was however intially put off because she thought I was 15. That kinda pissed me off.
Anyway, we chat.. rather, she spoke to me about various things. About 'meeting' Jesus Christ, Jesus being the one True God.. etc etc. and I'm getting a be peaved, because I hate this arrogance in religion. She asked me if I've had and religious influences in my life and I told her my last girlfriend was quite devoted to her faith while we dated. Then she asked me what religion. I said Baha'i, to which she replied, "ahh, Baha'i, there bad." This got me fuming. And she went on about how all these other people have got it wrong and aren't following the right path. I was getting really angry until finally she asked me if this was making sense to me. I told her, yes to a degree I understand what you're saying and I agree with some of your view points. To which she smiled and said but?
Now I was at a difficult point. Right then and there, in the middle of Carindale I could begin a religious debate with a complete stranger. I remember someone once told me, never talk to strangers about Politics or religion, as it always turns ugly. So I'm standing there and I grinned back. She said 'Come on, you can tell me, I have 2 kids, I can take what you say.'
So I said, 'I really can't stand the ignorance of people like you who say that your God is the only true god and everyone elses beliefs and faiths are wrong.' She then smiled and told me this story about how a Muslim man she knew (and she stressed to me that it was a Muslim man) once was at a real low point of his life spiritually and sat a chair in the middle of his room and asked Allah, to come and sit with him to prove that he was following the right path. After an hour of nothing happening, this guy asked some other god to come and sit. Still nothing happened, then she said finally this dude asked Jesus Christ to come and sit in the room and she said that instantly he felt this joy surround him.
Now, at this point Mitch came and interupted us, but I was so eager to continue talking to this lady, because she really she'd like an intelligent person and although a little ignorant, seemed to want to listen to what I was saying.
She also told me about her life before becoming a christian. She was in the middle of a failing marriage and her daughter had made several attempts at her on life and she told me how one day, she just broke and took herself and her daughter to church one day. She told me how this minister there asked the room if anyone wanted to meet Jesus Christ. She said her daughter put her hand up and she could she a change right then in her daughters attitude and outlook in life. She said she asked her what prompted her to put her hand up and she said she felt this 'wave of joy' surround her while the minister was preaching and she told me that it was Jesus Christ. She also said that she knew her daughter was cured at this point.
NOW... FUCK!! Shes a Psychiatrist!!! And she standing there telling me her daughter is 'cured' of some suicide disease because she had a ruch of blood to the head. I couldn't believe this. I really wish I had brought this up with her, but I only thought of it later.
Anyway, this was just a regurgatation of my thoughts, I haven't editted this or reread it, so it probably doesn't make sense. I just wanted to post this. It's just, this chat got me thinking about stuff. Maybe, I'm the arrogant one, even if she is a little misguided. Maybe she has meet God in her own way. What ever the outcome, it was a good thing that happened. It got me thinking about myself and things I haven't thought about in a while. So yeah, take what you want from this. Goodnight.