Jun 16, 2005 10:25
Ok....i can take people ragging on Bush (the truth is he's far from my favorite president and I think his administration is a coddling little pushover), and to a certain extent people protesting the war (most of them I just label as ignorant and ignore their unfounded and uninformed claims.) But one thing I can't deal with it when they take a shot at our troops. Senator Dick Durbin (Liberal Democrat, IL...not that I had to guess...) Compared out troops actions and those actions carried out at GITMO (thats Guantanamo Bay Cuba, so that you Liberals can get one shred of information correct) to those carried out by Nazis, The Russians in the Gulag, and Pol Pot. Here's the quote:
"When you read some of the graphic descriptions of what has occurred here [at Guantanamo Bay]--I almost hesitate to put them in the [Congressional] Record, and yet they have to be added to this debate. Let me read to you what one FBI agent saw. And I quote from his report:
On a couple of occasions, I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for 18-24 hours or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold. . . . On another occasion, the [air conditioner] had been turned off, making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his hair out throughout the night. On another occasion, not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely loud rap music was being played in the room, and had been since the day before, with the detainee chained hand and foot in the fetal position on the tile floor.
If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."
Ok...this guys gotta be screwing a terrorist. He literally must have a Muhammad al Boyfriend at GITMO. Am I the only one who sees intense interrogation techniques as a way to a) SAVE OUR TROOPS and b) PROTECT THIS NATION. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE TWIN TOWERS FALLING, NICH BURGS HEAD BEING LOPPED OFF, AND THE ROADSIDE BOMBS! How could you! Either he and anyone who agrees with him is a total moron, or they hate this country and want to watch it go down like a continent sized Hindinburg, or they have become so blinded by politics and they hate Bush enough that they will sell out our troops, our country and your, yes your safety by interfering with actions that have been proven to save lives. You know where this happened last? VIETNAM! THE LIBERALS DIDN'T GET THEIR FAILED IRAQI FREEDOM WAR THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO TURN OUT LIKE VIETNAM, BUT WHAT CAN THEY DO NOW. THEY CAN TRY TO TURN US AGAINST OUR TROOPS. THEY CAN MAKE UP ACCUSATIONS AND EXAGGERATE THE NECESSARY METHODS USED TO GAIN INFORMATION THAT SAVES FRIGGIN LIVES OF OUR TROOPS IN THE FIELD, OUR ALLIES, AND RESIDENTS OF OUR COUNTRY. DID I FRIGGIN MISS SOMETHING?
SO lets look at what our Nazi like troops did: 1)Made the room to cold for comfort, and then to hot for comfort...SHOULD WE FLUFF THE TERRORISTS PILLOWS TOO! SOMETIMES I WAKE UP AT NIGHT FREEZING COLD WITH A THIN BLANKET ON TOO. DOES THAT MEAN I CAN CALL THE MORONS AT AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL AND THE ACLU ON MY PARENTS FOR KEEPING MY HOUSE TO COLD?! AND OUR TROOPS TRUDGE AROUND IN THE DESERT IN 120 DEGREE HEAT...BECUASE OF THE ISLAMOFACISTS AT GITMO 2) Chained the prisoner up....HE'S IN P-R-I-S-O-N DAMMIT. THATS WHAT HAPPENS IN PRISON. 3) LOUD RAP MUSIC.....oooh this is good...I do feel sorry for the little bastard now. no one should go through that. EVEN IF YOU FRIGGIN KILL OR AID IN THE KILLING OF 3000 AMERICAN CITIZENS. GOD FORBID THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO LISTEN TO RAP MUSIC. 4) Apparently the guards allowed him to defecate and urinate on himself...WELL IF THEY HADN'T GIVEN HIM MARINATED CHICKEN AND RICE PILAF THE DAY BEFORE WHILE OUR TROOPS IN THE FIELD EAT DEHYDRATED MRE'S THEN HE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD ANYTHING TO CRAP OUT. YES THATS RIGHT, THE TERRORIST CIVILIAN KILLING FREAKS AT GITMO HAVE BETTER FOOD THAN OUR NOBLE FIGHTING MEN AND WOMEN DO...but thats ok because they have to listen to rap music isn't it.
Apparently sen. Dick hasn't done much history homework because when i read that i though...hmm maybe he'll tell us where some of the other Al-Queda cells are soon. I CERTAINLY WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT NAZIS, GULAGS AND VIETNAMESE TYRANT. But i can see the comparison...Nazis kill 9 million people, we detain...oh...500 or so. We play loud rap music, the Nazis incinerate people in large ovens. We allow the terrorists exercise, feed them Pilaf, and give keep each one in good health. Auschwitz and the Gulags starverd experimented on and put prisoners in labor camps.
Pol Pot. Let's see...where did he come from....hmmmm...POWER VACUUM LEFT OVER IN VIETNAM AFTER HIPPIES LIKE JOHN KERRY (yes i guess he had to be involved somehow) TURNED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGAINST ITS TROOPS WITH LIES AND EMBELISHMENTS. IF WE HAD STAYED THE COURSE THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO POL POT! Anyone could argue that Vietnam could have gone either way though...so I'll abandon that before I get trapped into a debate with another uninformed liberal.
Today Senator Dick....no....Just dick, Seator is a term of respect. So Dick refused to apologize today for comparing our troops to Nazis and the like. Here is my offer: Dick, you give me a call, and this future Marine will use his less than minimum wage paycheck to pay to fly your american hating ass to Canada, no, France.
War is not clean. It's sad, depressing, and a horrible thing. But the truth is that it is sometimes necessary I refuse to debate whether or not we should be in Iraq. Besides, GITMO prisoners are from Afghanistan. So like it or not; we are at war. Wars are not run by the ACLU or Amnesty Intl. or even the politicians on capital hill. If you really want to save some lives: STEP OFF. LET THE SOLDIERS DO THEIR JOBS. INTERROGATIONS ARE EFFECTIVE AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING SINCE GITMO WAS STARTED. NOW THEY WANT TO CLOSE GITMO DOWN. Oh hell yes, let's let all of them go. GITMO HAS MADE THE MISTAKE OF LETTGIN ABOUT 50 GO...12 HAVE RESUMED TREEORIST ACTION AND COUNTLESS OTHERS HAVE "DISSAPPEARED"...hmmmm....where might they be...what might they be doing.
Even worse: THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION THAT STARTED THE WAR IS NOW CODDLING TO THE OVERLY PC RANTS AND RAVES OF THE ACLU AND OTHER UNINFORMED LIBERALS. GEORGE...STEP UP! WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO "WE WILL NOT FALTER..." I BOUGHT THAT YOU KNOW! I REALLY BELIEVED THAT YOU WOULD STAND UP FOR THAT. GUESS JUST ANOTHER POLITICIAN'S AGENDA GOT IN THE WAY....ugh...God, send us Regan again.
So let's coddle to our enemies and the terrorists and our prisoners. Let's show the world and our enemies that we just give up once again. Cause they didn't get the message after Vietnam, the first Gulf War, Mogadishu.
Here's my final proof that this is nothing but a leftist ploy: During the Bosnia conflict under Clinton (an action which, for the record, I supported) the same interrogation techniques were used. Loud music, adverse climate control, long periods detained in small spaces while not moving. AND THE NO ONE HAD A PROBLEM. NOT THE ACLU, AMNESTY INTL., OR EVEN THE LEFTIST LIBERAL AMERICANS.
Finally, I have learned that the man on the floor who was chained and deficated on himself his rice pilaf and was cold then hot and who was forced to listen to P-Diddy while he pulled his hair out, he was none other than the legendary 20th hijacker from nine eleven. And after a few of those 18-24 hour sessions...guess what...he cracked and revealed to our troops several Al-Queda cells around the world. Cells that were planning attacks on large groups of civilians in, among other locations, hospitals and schools. SICK AND INJURED PEOPLE AND CHILDREN. AND WE'RE THE MONSTERS?! Hug a muslim, fanatical, child killing, hospital bombing, hijacking, anti-american, terrorist today...and give them another serving of Rice Pilaf, Dick.
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Aljazeera has just announced praise for Sen. Durbin. Thats right fellow Americans! Your liberal Democrat senator from Illinois has just been praised by the notoriously Anti-American TV network. I take back what i said earlier Dick. I'll buy your ticket to Saudi Arabia. Jackass!