>>If they leave it to Ronon, he'll just explode the whole hive without a look back.<<
I guess you're right and this goes without saying.
Given they would have the means to keep Wraith children in stasis (which could be a problem, depending on how much of them there are), do you think they would risk that the Wraith might come for their young?
Unfortunately, if they took them to a safe location and didn't put them in stasis, sooner or later they'd get to the point where they needed to feed the Wraith way. So unless the Atlantis folk provided them with humans to feed upon, they'd start feeding on each other. The expedition would either have to perfect the medical treatment that eliminates the need to feed or come up with an alternate solution. I think most of the Pegasus natives would just want to eliminate them altogether.
Although, perhaps giving them to Todd to raise would be interesting. I'm not sure what our guys would get out of that deal, but Todd would get some potential Queens he could use to expand his power base (that is, if they cooperated).
Interesting thought, though would they actually trust him enough to provide the power that raising future queens and "officers" (for lack of a better word) means? Todd always has his own secret agenda and nobody knows that better than John:
"Here's the problem: every time we get involved with you, I feel like I'm walking around with a live grenade in my pocket, just waitin' for it to all go wrong for that one thing you forgot to mention."
Even if there would be a distinct advantage, a plan on what to get out of that for the Lanteans, would they actually trust Todd enough to make such a deal? He would have to keep up his end of the deal for years to come - not what I would call a save bet. ;-)
And let's not forget, he has still developed back to be a Wraith who needs feeding since the "cure" killed his crew and almost him too.
Yeah, I know that the situation all in all would be very problematic, after all, that's what stirred up the question to begin with. :-)
>>I think most of the Pegasus natives would just want to eliminate them altogether.<<
I wouldn't expect from them otherwise since they suffered for thousands of years and uncount generations from the Wraith, but what would the Lanteans do? Despite being at war with the Wraith, they - as a people - don't have the bone-deep, since generations engraved fear/hate.
On the other hand, they are *the* technologically advanced force in Pegasus and might feel kind of a responsibility towards the peoples of Pegasus. And they have to keep in mind that Earth is always on stake if the location of Earth gets out again. And a ship full of Wraith kids would mean a ship full of future threats.
So, what would they do in the end? I know it's a difficult question - that's why I'm asking it. :-)
Honestly, I believe they would either perfect the treatment they used on Todd and the others that failed, or they'd kill them. Leaving them on a gateless planet to fend for themselves would be a much slower death, but death nonetheless if there were no humans to feed upon. Our guys have made such choices before.
Similar ones, yes. And we can't forget that John is a soldier. Making this kind of decisions is part of his profession.
They blew up a planet with a Wraith population they had turned into humans because a hive was approaching and they didn't want every information Michael had on Atlantis and Earth' location to get out.
Sheppard lured a few humans and a Wraith into a trap and blew them up in order to save survivors of the Hoffan plague.
But this scenario doesn't have this kind of pressure and in my opinion this makes the decision of what to do with them even more difficult. It's hard to judge what will result for the future from their decision, no matter what they decide to do. That makes it harder, as I see it. :-)
>>it's all about what we assume, what we guess. <<
Yep. We know so little that we can come up with a bunch of possible scenarios. :-)
>>Turn it this way, if a ship full of human children were to somehow end up in the Pegasus Galaxy, would we trust the Wraiths to take care of them while we get there? <<
We would trust them to have them for dinner and that's why we would try to get them back and, of course, the Wraith wouldn't trust humans with their offspring either. So I assume they would try to get them back as well if they get wind of a bunch of Wraith kids kept somewhere by the Lanteans.
So you think it a likely possibility that they would call Todd and hand them over to him in order to get rid of them?
>>Consider this : in SG1, they did find the equivalent of Goauld babies, dozens of them in fact. What did they do? Kill them. Plain and simple. And the Goauld were almost a joke compared to the Wraith and what they've done. <<
Which actually tells me nothing since I watch SG-1 just sporadically but I assume from the context that the Goauld didn't react exactly kindly to this and took revenge in one way or other? :-)
>>I can't see the Lanteans keeping children in hostage, knowing full well that the only thing it can achieve is more war, more deaths and more grief. We know for a fact that the Wraith answer when threatened is to retaliate ten folds. If they come for these children out of some sense of family or whatever, they will take and kill ...... )
>>Nope, the Goaulds, like the Wraith queens, fight each others for domination, so they didn't do anything afterward.<<
So, killing the Goauld offspring had not further consequences for Earth/the SGC?
>>You're welcome. I'm not sure if it helped at all, ahahah :p.<<
*LOL* :-) It wasn't a problem to solve, just a question I find interesting to discuss. In fact, I think it's a pretty much insolvable question due to the lack of information on how the Wraith would react. Though there are also a few aspects that have to be taken into consideration which have nothing to do with the Wraith's possible reaction.
It's a very complex question and I liked the discussion material you provided. Thanks again. :-)
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I guess you're right and this goes without saying.
Given they would have the means to keep Wraith children in stasis (which could be a problem, depending on how much of them there are), do you think they would risk that the Wraith might come for their young?
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"Here's the problem: every time we get involved with you, I feel like I'm walking around with a live grenade in my pocket, just waitin' for it to all go wrong for that one thing you forgot to mention."
Even if there would be a distinct advantage, a plan on what to get out of that for the Lanteans, would they actually trust Todd enough to make such a deal? He would have to keep up his end of the deal for years to come - not what I would call a save bet. ;-)
And let's not forget, he has still developed back to be a Wraith who needs feeding since the "cure" killed his crew and almost him too.
Difficult situation. :-)
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>>I think most of the Pegasus natives would just want to eliminate them altogether.<<
I wouldn't expect from them otherwise since they suffered for thousands of years and uncount generations from the Wraith, but what would the Lanteans do? Despite being at war with the Wraith, they - as a people - don't have the bone-deep, since generations engraved fear/hate.
On the other hand, they are *the* technologically advanced force in Pegasus and might feel kind of a responsibility towards the peoples of Pegasus. And they have to keep in mind that Earth is always on stake if the location of Earth gets out again. And a ship full of Wraith kids would mean a ship full of future threats.
So, what would they do in the end? I know it's a difficult question - that's why I'm asking it. :-)
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Similar ones, yes. And we can't forget that John is a soldier. Making this kind of decisions is part of his profession.
They blew up a planet with a Wraith population they had turned into humans because a hive was approaching and they didn't want every information Michael had on Atlantis and Earth' location to get out.
Sheppard lured a few humans and a Wraith into a trap and blew them up in order to save survivors of the Hoffan plague.
But this scenario doesn't have this kind of pressure and in my opinion this makes the decision of what to do with them even more difficult. It's hard to judge what will result for the future from their decision, no matter what they decide to do. That makes it harder, as I see it. :-)
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Yep. We know so little that we can come up with a bunch of possible scenarios. :-)
>>Turn it this way, if a ship full of human children were to somehow end up in the Pegasus Galaxy, would we trust the Wraiths to take care of them while we get there? <<
We would trust them to have them for dinner and that's why we would try to get them back and, of course, the Wraith wouldn't trust humans with their offspring either. So I assume they would try to get them back as well if they get wind of a bunch of Wraith kids kept somewhere by the Lanteans.
So you think it a likely possibility that they would call Todd and hand them over to him in order to get rid of them?
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Which actually tells me nothing since I watch SG-1 just sporadically but I assume from the context that the Goauld didn't react exactly kindly to this and took revenge in one way or other? :-)
>>I can't see the Lanteans keeping children in hostage, knowing full well that the only thing it can achieve is more war, more deaths and more grief. We know for a fact that the Wraith answer when threatened is to retaliate ten folds. If they come for these children out of some sense of family or whatever, they will take and kill ...
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So, killing the Goauld offspring had not further consequences for Earth/the SGC?
>>You're welcome. I'm not sure if it helped at all, ahahah :p.<<
*LOL* :-) It wasn't a problem to solve, just a question I find interesting to discuss. In fact, I think it's a pretty much insolvable question due to the lack of information on how the Wraith would react. Though there are also a few aspects that have to be taken into consideration which have nothing to do with the Wraith's possible reaction.
It's a very complex question and I liked the discussion material you provided. Thanks again. :-)
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