SPN meta: Red Tape and Demon Blood

[patita_fea]

So here's a lil something that's had me puzzled since 4.03. Exactly what rules must demons abide by? Clearly there are some; crossroads demons are bound to honor their contracts, and Azazel whines about red tape in 2.01. So how have these rules affected the Winchesters' relationships with demons - particularly Sam's

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[aasaylva]

Ooooh, very interesting thought and I like the idea of baptism-confirmation-communion in a parallel demonic "religion" - the Medival idea of black masses went along the same line. In fact, what I was always reminded of was the way Merlin was sayed to have been conceived: by a human mother and sired by the devil to parallel Jesus, stemming from a human mother as well and sired by God. In Sam's case, the human mother remains (and her name is, of course, Mary)but the demon blood might be viewed as some sort of step-fathership. The YED even claimed his blood to be better than a mother's milk, so he entertains a very physical idea of parenthood. Which - if taken literal - opens up some quite apalling ideas concerning the relationship between John and Sam. If John was "ousted" as father by the demon, as far as he is concerned, Sam is not his son, but a sort of changeling - and I can't help but think of the ep. "The kids are alright" with the mother trying to kill her changeling daughter to avoid further evil. John did much the same thing when he ordered Dean to kill Sam, if needs must be.
Which makes me wonder how much John really knew about Mary's demon connection. Seeing as he needed Missouri to tell him "the truth" - whatever that was, it doesn't look like Mary ever told him about her own hunter family, let alone about John's death and resurrection and the deal she made.

[patita_fea]

Hey, there!

The YED even claimed his blood to be better than a mother's milk, so he entertains a very physical idea of parenthood. Which - if taken literal - opens up some quite apalling ideas concerning the relationship between John and Sam.

There's cultural baggage that comes with this notion, too. The person most likely to abuse a kid is a stepfather/mother's boyfriend/grown male who is not the kid's biological father. *cringe* Doubtless John was horrified when he found out about Azazel's interest in Sammy, and I can imagine the changeling comparison crossing his mind and leaving him really unsettled.

But I'm not sure I'd take it as far as saying that John was ousted as the father. Maybe the "baptism" ritual conferred something like godfatherhood. A role as spiritual guide.

Which makes me wonder how much John really knew about Mary's demon connection.
I think I remember him telling Azazel that he'd known about Sammy's demonic connection "for a while." But I agree with you that whatever he knew, he didn't find out from Mary.