Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Jun 06, 2008 01:25

My spoiler-free review:


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bathalamus June 6 2008, 12:29:17 UTC
Ok. I know that is a formula relating to magnetism. However, I cannot recall what it is used for. Help? (yes, I fail my geek roll for asking)

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papercuppie June 6 2008, 13:27:45 UTC
I don't think you fail your geek roll-- you're the first to mention magnetism :)

It's the Biot-Savart law... which might not be wholly appropriate, actually, depending on what exactly in the Crystal Skulls cause the magnetic field. At any rate, it's used to find the force exerted on a charged particle by a magnetic field.

Anyway, the important bit is the "over r squared" part. When Indy is in the warehouse at the beginning (we're talking first ten minutes of the movie, so I'm not really spoiling much if you haven't seen it), and he locates the magnetically charged item he's looking for by tossing gunpowder into the air from across the warehouse, and then everyone gathers close to it and somehow doesn't manage to have all of the metal on their persons ripped summarily off their persons... well, that's the part of the movie where I turned to my friend and hissed "OVER R SQUARED ( ... )

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american_arcane June 6 2008, 14:23:48 UTC
Yeah... I do believe they made the point near the middle of the movie that it wasn't magnetism (due to the gold thing)... and then just kind of left it hanging there.

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papercuppie June 6 2008, 14:47:17 UTC
Okay, the choices are:
1) Gravity
2) Electromagnetism
3) Strong force
4) Weak force

1: subject to inverse square rule
2: subject to inverse square rule
3 and 4: not in effect at any distance observed in the movie

Gold is not ferromagnetic, by the way, but that's not the only magnetic state. I don't know enough about magnetism to say whether "it attracts gold" disqualifies the force as magnetic. They continued referring to it as magnetism, at any rate.

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american_arcane June 6 2008, 14:51:33 UTC
Those are the choices in the real world.

You're dealing with 1950's sci-fi (or sci-fantasy, more likely) pulp. With aliens.

Normal science doesn't come in to play anywhere near as much as one would like.

Besides, hypnotism used to be called magnetism, too.

It's one of those catch-all, kinda techy words that get thrown around a lot... and rarely in the correct way. :)

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papercuppie June 6 2008, 15:00:10 UTC
*stabs the aliens*

*stabs the 1950's, too, just for good measure*

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american_arcane June 6 2008, 15:08:29 UTC
"Seriously, Betty, you know what this meteor could mean to science. If we find it, and it's real, it could mean a lot. It could mean actual advances in the field of science."

It's all about The Science!

I really grew up on too many bad 50s sci-fi films to even blink much at stuff like this.

You would twitch uncontrollably at the movie quoted above. :)

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hmaon June 6 2008, 21:01:02 UTC
I love wire-fu movies where gravity stops working! :(

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papercuppie June 6 2008, 21:47:21 UTC
You know, I'd forgotten entirely about those.

I really didn't like it the first time I saw it, but now my brain can accept it as a genre quirk.

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