Thought of the Day.

Nov 27, 2011 15:18

Watching US foreign policy in action is like watching people react to a broken condom.

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jordan179 November 27 2011, 21:00:29 UTC
Which Obamaniacal reaction did you have in mind?

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paladyn November 27 2011, 21:43:46 UTC
Actually, it's an observation of American foreign policy in general and post Cold War policy in particular. At some point we've forgotten how to play the game much to our detriment.

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pelgar November 27 2011, 23:25:03 UTC
In the past there would be debate & discussion before dropping MOABs on a foreign country.

Just like there used to be a pause to reflect before pepper spraying seated protesters.

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jordan179 November 28 2011, 02:11:11 UTC
In the past there would be debate & discussion before dropping MOABs on a foreign country.

Really? What "past" would this be?

(hint: bunker-busting bombs have only been around since WWII, and the specific sort of weapons you're talking about have only been around for the last decade or two).

Just like there used to be a pause to reflect before pepper spraying seated protesters.

Same here, and again I do not know to what "past" you refer, as pepper-spray is a fairly recent development.

If you want to talk about the equivalent weapons and similar (or more extreme) tactics in the days before World War II

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot

The Tulsa race riot was a large-scale racially motivated conflict, May 31 - June 1st 1921, between the white and black communities of Tulsa, Oklahoma, in which the wealthiest African-American community in the United States, the Greenwood District also known as 'The Negro Wall St' [1] was burned to the ground. ( ... )

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pelgar November 28 2011, 05:58:42 UTC
You seem to enjoy nitpicking individual words and listening to yourself type at great length.

As Paladyn said, we've forgotten "how to play the game."

In the past, that oh so nostalgic past which you feel the need to educate me about, (really? Wikipedia? SRSLY?) there would be political channels used, ambassadors asked to leave a country, or recalled, etc. You know, "the game."

You would do well to not be a complete ass to people you've never met. You might find that they're not so different from you... Just less of an ass.

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jordan179 November 29 2011, 15:21:06 UTC
What I'm saying is that the factual claim you're making is false -- we weren't as nice and deliberate in the past as you imagine. The reason why you probably believe otherwise is that we often forget minor wars and embarassing race riots if they do not occur in a context where a major political party is willing to make an issue out of them ( ... )

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pelgar November 30 2011, 03:44:19 UTC
I'm just going to check "batshit crazy" next to your name.
Good day.

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jordan179 November 30 2011, 05:46:52 UTC
Oh, of course I am "batshit crazy" if I call you out on a misstatement of fact, then proceed to back it up with online sources. A sane man would simply be blinded with awe by your authoritative presence and enthusiastically agree with anything you say. Indeed, a sane man would grasp that anything you say, even if it was false, would become true by the mere fact of your saying it. Oh, why cannot my mind be awakened to your glorious sanity and my useless reason dissolve in contemplation of the shining beauty which is your opinion?!!!

ROFLMAO, bub.

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