I love the relationship between her and Jesse SO MUCH. Especially because it's established after we've been lead to believe that both Jesse and Riley are in the show only to be Obligatory Love Interests, and it turns out that their most intense relationship is with each other. Well, I guess that's arguable for Jesse, but I do think she gets something from Riley that she doesn't from Derek.
I so do not want the show to be canceled! It has won me over, and it is just so solid every week.
I think maybe it was all the same night, in the middle of the night--she called in at what, midnight or 1 AM or something, and then when she was driving away during the last voiceover, it was still nighttime. Though I suppose there could have been a day in there I wasn't aware of, given that she was stuck in a van most of the time.
No, that makes sense, and that was what it felt like. Although it still feels weirdly disconnected from the following episodes, and I wish there were some explanation of how Winston ended up there.
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And I love Jesse's repetition of bringing Riley out of Hell and into Paradise. In her mind, it's all the afterlife anyway, they're all dead, and the only point in surviving is to make sure that the future ends up going the way it should. She's already written herself off and Riley off, and probably written off Derek as well.
Hm, you're making me rethink Jesse. She frustratingly falls into the Dragon Lady stereotype for me in that most of her M.O. is seduction, manipulation, and mysterious motivations that were only recently revealed. On one hand, the Jesse storyline with Riley makes me cringe because it amounts to, "Turn Riley into a woman in the refrigerator for John." OTOH, Jesse's regret(?) makes her feel more fleshed out, and we are getting backstory on her. She's getting a storyline, instead of being in the story for how she affects the other characters.
Aside from that, I love what the show's doing. Oh, aside from wanting more of a storyline for Ellison.
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Haha, no, I know my reaction to Jesse is pretty idiosyncratic and a lot of it is stuff that I'm bringing in to the show, as opposed to what's actually being presented on the show.
And yeah re: Riley's refrigerator-ness. I'm less annoyed by it because we do have so many more women in the show already, so losing one doesn't make the same difference that it would in another show. Also, the show has done stuff with men in refrigerators as well. That said, I am terrified Jesse is going to be a woman in a refrigerator as well.
There's also just so much interesting stuff going on with the men being the emotional nurturers and the women being the leaders and the tacticians.
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I so do not want the show to be canceled! It has won me over, and it is just so solid every week.
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I think maybe it was all the same night, in the middle of the night--she called in at what, midnight or 1 AM or something, and then when she was driving away during the last voiceover, it was still nighttime. Though I suppose there could have been a day in there I wasn't aware of, given that she was stuck in a van most of the time.
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Hm, you're making me rethink Jesse. She frustratingly falls into the Dragon Lady stereotype for me in that most of her M.O. is seduction, manipulation, and mysterious motivations that were only recently revealed. On one hand, the Jesse storyline with Riley makes me cringe because it amounts to, "Turn Riley into a woman in the refrigerator for John." OTOH, Jesse's regret(?) makes her feel more fleshed out, and we are getting backstory on her. She's getting a storyline, instead of being in the story for how she affects the other characters.
Aside from that, I love what the show's doing. Oh, aside from wanting more of a storyline for Ellison.
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And yeah re: Riley's refrigerator-ness. I'm less annoyed by it because we do have so many more women in the show already, so losing one doesn't make the same difference that it would in another show. Also, the show has done stuff with men in refrigerators as well. That said, I am terrified Jesse is going to be a woman in a refrigerator as well.
There's also just so much interesting stuff going on with the men being the emotional nurturers and the women being the leaders and the tacticians.
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