Wiscon 31: What These People Need Is a Honky

May 30, 2007 16:28

Description: Tom Cruise is the Last Samurai. Kevin Costner wins the heart of American Indians with his wolf dancing. Orlando Bloom, in Kingdom of Heaven, goes from medieval England to Jerusalem to teach the Arabs how to sink wells and transport water. Is there anything that can be done about this plague of Orientalist white-guy Mary Sue-ism?

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race/ethnicity/culture: asian-ness, movies, wiscon, race/ethnicity/culture

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oyceter May 30 2007, 23:50:09 UTC
That will be awesome!

I wait with baited breath for something about Japan that doesn't include geisha or ritual suicide.

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yeloson May 31 2007, 08:18:56 UTC
Right there with "asian people talk about honor then backstab each other" trope of played out bullshit. Gah.

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oyceter May 31 2007, 21:17:02 UTC
Oh my gosh, yes! Because we are all so inscrutable or something! Grrr.

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oyceter May 30 2007, 23:50:39 UTC
DOH! That completely slipped my mind!

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oyceter May 31 2007, 17:34:31 UTC
Well, I think it does count -- she's coded as white. It's sort of like the "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" thing; they picked a half-white, half-Indian character so the white audience would have more to identify with.

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raanve May 31 2007, 00:27:43 UTC
There was also talk of the politics and financials of Hollywood, of how there are nearly no actors like Denzel who can draw in a white audience, and of how the system perpetuated itself.

I can think of very few, and I am wracking my brain pretty hard. Denzel Washington, Will Smith, Samuel L Jackson. Those are the three big stars I can come up with. Don Cheadle has been getting really good press lately (for good reason), but I don't think he's of that same caliber, as far as box office clout.

I'm sorry I missed this one -- I think it was scheduled opposite another panel I really wanted to attend (X-Women panel? I can't remember).

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oyceter May 31 2007, 00:56:41 UTC
I can think of very few, and I am wracking my brain pretty hard. Denzel Washington, Will Smith, Samuel L Jackson.

Heh, yeah... OMG I can totally see them becoming the "Hopkinson, Butler, Delany, Barnes" chant in SF.

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raanve May 31 2007, 01:07:28 UTC
Yeah, and understandably so. The fact that I can't think of anyone else who has that kind of "star power" -- and yet I can probably rattle off a LONG list of white male actors -- just serves to illustrate the point.

And yet, when Crash won Best Picture, Hollywood was so self-congratulatory about "how it deals with race" that if you didn't know any better, you'd have believed that we'd finally gotten somewhere.

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oyceter May 31 2007, 02:40:53 UTC
Oh Hollywood... Just... yeah.

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white programming guilt moment :) pantryslut May 31 2007, 00:37:22 UTC
Oh, thank God! That meand I didn't *actually* appoint the lone white person on the panel as the moderator, even by accident.

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Re: white programming guilt moment :) oyceter May 31 2007, 00:47:56 UTC
Hee!! No, you didn't at all ^_^. Though I think the switch made Doselle a lot happier, judging from his reaction ;).

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oyceter May 31 2007, 02:31:17 UTC
Cool! And hi!

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