Comments | oxoniensis: Offshoot fandoms

oxoniensis

Offshoot fandoms

Dec 20, 2006 20:42

Want to know one of the things I like most about writing in new fandoms?1 It's easy to keep track of canon.2 Four episodes into a tv show, there are no huge arcs and mind-boggling timeline and endless lists of secondary characters to keep a track of. When you're writing multiple fandoms, and you have a memory as slippery as mine, that's a huge ( Read more... )

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inthekeyofd December 20 2006, 20:45:29 UTC

Technically the CSI's are all different shows, but say take the Miami one, that was sort of introduced from CSI when they had to go to Florida for an extension of a crime that happened in Las Vegas..but that's it for those two..there are no other crossovers--meaning, the shows don't intermingle, it's like they are three distinct entities.

malnpudl December 20 2006, 21:04:40 UTC

There's also been a single crossover between the Miami and NY shows, where Horatio Caine went to New York in pursuit of a bad guy who'd started off in Florida and worked with the NY folks.

inthekeyofd December 20 2006, 21:08:52 UTC

I only knew about how they introduced the Miami one..I don't watch the Miami (I only ever watched the crossover one and of course the one with JF on it) or the NY versions, so I was totally limited in my reply, so thank you for supplying more info.

darkhavens December 21 2006, 19:01:29 UTC

Just like CSI Las Vegas introduced us to CSI Miami via an episode at the end of their second season, so CSI Miami introduced us to CSI New York via an episode at the end of their second season. They also had one further crossover storyline.

At the end of S2 of CSI NY I was half-expecting to be introduced to the CSI of yet another city. CSI Chicago, anyone? *g*

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dark_vanessa December 20 2006, 20:53:34 UTC

Oh, I don't think you need to watch all the series of Doctor Who. The first and the second season of the New Doctor (with Eccleston and Tennant) should suffice. Perhaps you might even include The Doctor to the list of new fandoms... ;) And Jack's going to be back in the third series.

oxoniensis December 21 2006, 23:26:03 UTC

I have this strange aversion to watching Dr. Who - maybe because it petrified me as a kid! I can remember watching it with my cousin, and both of us being scared stiff. But I think I'll have to attempt it (the two seasons you've suggested, or parts of them), maybe while some of my other shows are on hiatus.

musesfool December 20 2006, 20:56:17 UTC

Hmm... having written extensively in X-Men movieverse after the first movie (but not since the second [or third] one came out), I found that while I did eventually pick up some comics knowledge - mostly from picking the brains of friends who were comics fans - it wasn't really necessary, because the stories were all labeled movieverse and posted to lists exclusively for movieverse fic and the movies are clearly AU from the core [616] comics, and in X-Men, there are so many different timelines and versions, so it's impossible to catch up fully on canon, especially as it often contradicts itself.

I would still like to write in the Batman Begins and Spider-Man movieverses, but I just haven't figured out the stories I want to write yet.

And while I have long since cooled on XMM, I am still fascinated by the Summers brothers, and the Summers family history, even though I've never actually read an X-Men comic in my life. (though that may change when Joss's run on Astonishing X-Men ends and I pick that up.)

oxoniensis December 21 2006, 23:34:03 UTC

in X-Men, there are so many different timelines and versions, so it's impossible to catch up fully on canon, especially as it often contradicts itself.

That seems to be a common issue with comics! I've been reading some DCU stories (mostly Tim, Kon and Dick), even though I've no background for them at all, but I've noticed in the headers that there seem to be an assortment of timelines and eras and it's all quite confusing!

Scott was actually my favourite X-Men character, so you've rather thrilled me by saying that you like the Summers brothers!

I've tended to assume that the majority of people who would be in a fandom like that would have read at least some of the comics, but maybe that's not so at all. Not that I have any immediate plans to write in the fandom, but there's always next yuletide!

jfc013 December 20 2006, 21:17:43 UTC

I wrote Wolverine/Spider-Man from only having seen the movies, though I sort of "knew" the mythos of those guys before that. I did pick my husband's brain a little regarding the X-Men, and had some familiarity w/ Spider-Man from a cartoon I'd watched as a kid, but mostly, my entire universe is movie-based, and I didn't feel I was missing anything.

For the record, I suspect that Doctor Who is a different "universe" with every actor who plays him. I have no knowledge of current canon, but used to be able to quote you chapter and verse on Tom Baker episodes...

drakyndra December 21 2006, 16:58:39 UTC

For the record, I suspect that Doctor Who is a different "universe" with every actor who plays him. I have no knowledge of current canon, but used to be able to quote you chapter and verse on Tom Baker episodes...

Erm... no, definitely not. It's all the same universe - you see the regeneration between each Doctor in most part, Doctor's refer to things they have done in previous incarnations, they are very definitely all the one Universe.

oxoniensis December 21 2006, 23:37:09 UTC

It's a bit of a battle at times, finding a compromise. I love having all sorts of little details of canon to bring in, to use and play with in a story. But on the other hand, the more canon there is, and the more sources you plunder for canon, the more there is to keep straight in your head, and the more there is to get muddled with and forget! I find I'm getting forgetful about canon even with shows that are only on their second or third season!

destina December 20 2006, 21:22:53 UTC

I feel a lot of obligation to canon, and I pretty much can't write without knowing almost 100% of the background, because it informs the characterization to some extent. If the background of a previous show has shaped a character, I need to see how, so I need to know it.

The weird thing is, sometimes it's hard to write in fandoms with open canon; I see your point about new shows without much established canon, but the future unknown also throws me off. *g*

oxoniensis December 21 2006, 23:47:13 UTC

The weird thing is, sometimes it's hard to write in fandoms with open canon; I see your point about new shows without much established canon, but the future unknown also throws me off.

I write in both, and I'm not sure which I prefer. Obviously, if the canon is open, and you're writing something episode related, you're running the risk of having to write really quickly and posting before it gets jossed! Which can be a bit much at times. But I rather like playing with the unknown, and it'd be so much fun if anything I wrote ever happened on the show! It's yet to happen, but I live in hope. *g*

If the background of a previous show has shaped a character, I need to see how, so I need to know it.If it's impacted on the character, yes. And I suppose even understanding things like the origin of a military programme, or being familiar with the scientists who've worked on the stargate does have some sort of impact at least on McKay and Sheppard and the rest of the earth contingency on Atlantis. I guess it's hard to draw a line and say ( ... )