Cielo's lack of backstory drives me nuts, but I do have to admit I enjoy the challenge of trying to put it together XD And I definitely agree with you that there's no real good way of showing it in-game, and all it would do really is make DDS even more depressing, as difficult as that is to imagine. I just googled around, and apparently all you get from beating the Dyaus game is two of the +5 random stats gems. (I so don't envy the person who beat it.)
Oh man, that's an interesting point. I was just teasing Gale about it the other day! I'm working this out as I type, so I'm not sure this is going to make sense, but I think it basically revolves around a) intentions and how they affect your actions and b) the unwiseness of allowing yourself to be too closely bound up in other needs.
DDS seems to have kinda a thing about showing a variety of intentions and results, and not letting good intentions excuse you from the most horrible results (coughHeatcough). I'd classify it roughly like this: Bad intentions, bad results: Angel, Sheffield Good intentions, bad results: Madame, Heat, Abaddon Good intentions, no results: Cielo pre-death Good intentions, good results: ...Roland? Seraph definitely. I don't know that I'd put either Sera or Serph in there though, considering it was their actions that lead to the world being destroyed.
I mean, I wouldn't say that Abaddon has the best of intentions, but I don't necessarily think it's bad to try to prove that humanity's better than their creations. Saying that it's good is overstating it, but so is saying that it's bad. But Cielo's intentions are a hell of a lot better (help his comrades, save the world), and even if he fails he's not actually adding to the harm, he's just failing to prevent it. And that's...not insignificant when you consider how much damage is done over the course of the series by people with good intentions.
Randomly this is making me think of predestination, and how you can tell the good people chosen by God by the fact that they make the right choices with the good intentions, but I think considering Sera and Serph are like, the opposite of that, I really don't think that's where they're going with this.
Oh man, that's an interesting point. I was just teasing Gale about it the other day! I'm working this out as I type, so I'm not sure this is going to make sense, but I think it basically revolves around a) intentions and how they affect your actions and b) the unwiseness of allowing yourself to be too closely bound up in other needs.
DDS seems to have kinda a thing about showing a variety of intentions and results, and not letting good intentions excuse you from the most horrible results (coughHeatcough). I'd classify it roughly like this:
Bad intentions, bad results: Angel, Sheffield
Good intentions, bad results: Madame, Heat, Abaddon
Good intentions, no results: Cielo pre-death
Good intentions, good results: ...Roland? Seraph definitely. I don't know that I'd put either Sera or Serph in there though, considering it was their actions that lead to the world being destroyed.
I mean, I wouldn't say that Abaddon has the best of intentions, but I don't necessarily think it's bad to try to prove that humanity's better than their creations. Saying that it's good is overstating it, but so is saying that it's bad. But Cielo's intentions are a hell of a lot better (help his comrades, save the world), and even if he fails he's not actually adding to the harm, he's just failing to prevent it. And that's...not insignificant when you consider how much damage is done over the course of the series by people with good intentions.
Randomly this is making me think of predestination, and how you can tell the good people chosen by God by the fact that they make the right choices with the good intentions, but I think considering Sera and Serph are like, the opposite of that, I really don't think that's where they're going with this.
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