a knife in my heart...

Sep 18, 2005 21:11

so i have gotten in quite a bit of debates about a number of morally wrong issues we must fight against in our society with several people out there and the past 2 weeks i've actually done something about it ( Read more... )

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anonymous September 18 2005, 19:30:57 UTC
I did NOTHING to deserve that honor. Neither did you. Neither did the Queen of England. What merits our lives and makes them worthwhile is the love we share during them. A mother who cares to bring a child into the world and is able to will receive the benefits, as will her family. But for a child brought into an family devoid of love, and then given to another family, that is just horrible. I would be CRUSHED if my parents gave me away because they didn't want me. Life would be full of the most depressing questions. It would be a terrible existence. And while I understand that some people are forced to have abortions, it is not like random people bring them to the clinic and do it. These people that make them get abortions are influential people in their lives, people who know what is good for them. Sometimes a painful event is necessary to save someone. You may not understand this, but in the movie Vertical Limit, 2 kids and their dad were hanging from a mountain by a rope and a hook. Since the hook was slipping out from the rock, the fahter knew the only way he could ensure the safety of his 2 kids was to cut his rope and fall to his death, lessening the pressure on the hook, and saving them. While this is Hollywood drama, it still has it's real life applications, and THIS IS ONE OF THEM!

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anonymous September 18 2005, 19:36:34 UTC
Well I'm glad you're hear to speak for every adopted person, ever. Why would there be any mothers at all willing to give their children up for adoption if it is so wrong? Because they love their children enough to give them a chance to live and a better future.

You're "Hollywood application" surprisingly seems to apply much more to the pro-life argument than a pro-choice one. A parent making a sacrifice to allow their children the opportunity to live. The sacrifice of lesser means by having to support a child, or the sacrifice of 9 months of being pregnant, or hours of labor, or giving up their child to adoption. So you are right. This is a real life application. And in real life, everyone deserves a chance to experience it.

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anonymous September 18 2005, 19:49:02 UTC
The point of the Hollywood application was not a father sacrificing himself for his kids, but of sacrficing one person for the greater good. Cutting away the baby allows the rest of the people hanging on that rope to survive and go on. As for the mothers giving their children up for adoption, they do it because those children have already been brought into the world. Once a child is born, the law defines it as murder to kill him/her. The only option is to send the child away. But for some it is much easier to simply abort. Remember, pro-choice means you have a CHOICE, where u can have the child or you can give it away. You are essentially forcing all mothers, whether it's their wishes or not, to have these children. Think about that, and respect these mothers and what they want. And while you could choose to say that the unborn fetuses don't get the option, they do not have the mental facilities to make a decision, only to feel basic sensations.

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anonymous September 18 2005, 19:52:36 UTC
When a child is born, it is the same human being it has been in the womb and will continue to be outside the womb. Less than 12 inches between one woman's legs should not constitute the difference between life and death when the human being has not changed at all.

The pro-life option provides a choice. The choice is if you are capable of caring for a baby, you keep it. If you're not, you allow another person to provide for it.

There are people "alive" now who do to mental retardation and other neurological situations are still incapable of making their own decisions. But they are allowed to live.

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anonymous September 18 2005, 19:59:15 UTC
You act like I'm the one who made the idea of abortion and murder different. I did not which I'm sure you know. But, given the standards that the law lays down, I have chosen what to believe. You are trying to live in the utopia that will NEVER exist. You want people to be able to have the child, and it's magically whisked away to a prosperous land. Well guess what. THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS!!! Life is not perfect, and people are forced to make tough decisions. But at least I give them room to do it instead of forcing them to live with a mistake!!!!

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