I'm not talking about the easy reader versions so much as these Non-Fiction titles that they adapt for teens and it's like, teens would be able to handle the regular version of the book. My fear is that these "young reader's editions" are sanitized, which bothers me.
They do still do novelizations of the movies for kids, we have all of them at the library and they are usually pretty popular (though I always find it hilarious when the movie is based on a book so the novelization is based on a movie that was based on a book...). But, yeah, I have no problem with the Jurassic Park and Star Wars children's books. It's the weird tween trend with NonFiction that bugs me. My theory is that it probably censors things so that teachers might be more comfortable teaching them in class. The 'Unbroken' and 'Boys in the Boat' adaptations have the same amount of pages as the regular editions.
Oh do NOT get me started on genres! Some genius in our system decided to put genre labels on the YA books and I tried to explain that nothing written today fits into ONE genre anymore. Stop trying to put a label on everything!
They do still do novelizations of the movies for kids No, I was specifically referring to what used to be done for films appealing to younger viewers and adults where there are junior novelizations AND adult novelizations of the same film. I find those more interesting because you would think they would be the same but they're not especially depending on which script they received and how they interpreted things. Heck, the junior novelization for TFA is more gut wrenching than the adult one! TFA was the first time I had seen both novelizations available in a long time...although being published much later was annoying...but not as annoying as Marvel's tactic of only printing half the film in their novelizations.
though I always find it hilarious when the movie is based on a book so the novelization is based on a movie that was based on a book...). Again, I love these because they often provide insight into the filming process. They're usually off the shooting script or an even earlier one so in the pre-internet era, this was the only way you knew about possible deleted scenes. Then, when these deleted scenes were actual scenes from the book and didn't make the actual film? RAGE
Sometimes, younger readers' editions are an excuse to have a different format or add in notes for educators or parents like suggested discussions and writing activities. Other times, yes, words are changed to make reading easier or it's sanitized. That part's not new at all so I'm not bothered, like being able to choose from Disney Cinderella or the original Brothers Grimm version.
There's another thing...marketing. Did you know that Scholastic and Bloomsbury both came out with ADULT versions of the Harry Potter novels? They were exactly the same but printed in a size more like adult books and with much more boring covers. I've noticed that sometimes these younger reader versions have the same cover but sometimes, there's definitely a marketing aspect to make it more appealing.
Money...I can't remember about Unbroken but Boys on the Boat for younger readers is HUGE. I think if I were in the children's section of the store and had to attack someone, that would be one of my picks. Larger sizes, resembling textbooks, are more durable but also MORE EXPENSIVE!
So yeah, it all comes down to money.
The newer librarians won't believe me but I remember when our town library didn't even separate YA from Juvenile. It'd be marked on the spine and that was the end of it. Ah, the 90s.
Sorry to butt in… I knew about the Bloomsbury editions, but what are the Scholastic "adult" cover Harry Potter books? (I collect cover variants of Sorcerer's Stone.)
I hate how search engines are done now. It's very hard to find anything from before the last five years. I finally had to go on Amazon and this is one of them: https://amzn.com/B00E31E30A
I know they did the first three but I can't guarantee or remember if they did all seven in this manner because it didn't sell as well.
Yay! I'm glad I could help, that one used to be a major mass market paperback so even drugstores and grocery stores had it.
Since you collect different versions, I'm curious about your opinion. For a few years now, my mom's been thinking how I should replace my books. She even suggested getting me new ones and giving the originals to my nephews but I was too sentimental so we gave the new ones to my nephew. Also, they smelled like cigarette smoke...one of the few Amazon fails.
I always thought if I were to buy new copies, I would want the UK versions so I've been thinking about buying the new illustrated editions through UK Amazon, what do you think?
Well, I know I could never get rid of my originals… I'm wayyy too sentimental.
I love the new U.K. illustrated editions! I don't usually buy the whole series, just the first book, but these are so nice I might buy all seven. (I already have the first book.) The new American paperbacks illustrated by Kazu Kibuishi are nice, too - when you line them up on the shelf, the spines make an image of Hogwarts Castle.
If you wanna save on shipping for the U.K. editions, maybe try Abe Books or Book Depository?
I've seen the new Kibuishi and they're nice but...I don't think I could ever get new paperbacks like that. My first four books are all paperbacks...another reason my mom and I were thinking about a replacement set. For the first four, I would read the hardback from the library and buy the paperback once it came out but by OotP, I needed to read it IMMEDIATELY!!! So, I have 5,6 and 7 in hardback.
Hmm, those are good ideas. I'll compare them with UK Amazon...I've heard the shipping for UK Amazon really isn't that much and the last time I looked with the conversion rate, the UK version on their site was actually cheaper than the American version on the American site!
I'm not really bothered by the true easy reader/elementary aged reader editions of books. Obviously those have different vocabulary etc. (though now I'm wondering if we bought the Force Awakens junior novelization...I just got the Rey's Survival book and a hardcover book but it resembles more of a picture book than novelization...at least Star Wars has never changed from their usual marketing tactic LOL!
Oh and I know about how the books have the original scripts, for a long time that was the only way to read about Biggs and Luke's friendship! That and listening to the radio drama...oh I wish they would do a radio drama for TFA! That would be AWESOME!!!!!
I remember those Harry Potter books, but the text was the same (well, the same as the UK edition??? I know the first US printing of Sorcerer's Stone had some British-isms switched out, like "torch" and "trainers" but they stopped that after the third book I think?)
Well, technically YA didn't "exist" in the publishing world until the 90s, but all we had were those awful Sweet Valley High and Christopher Pike novels LOL! I remember that sad little corner of my library, mostly I think they pulled them out due to content, so much kissing/making out in the Pike novels...I remember blushing while reading them! Funny what sticks in your mind. There is a reason I went right to adult books!!
I know my YA Lit class pointed to "The Outsiders" as one of the "first" (I'm using a lot of quotes, sorry) YA books and it took awhile for the publishing world to catch on that maybe teens DO read and they could market directly to them.
Umm, no, I even want to pick up the British editions of the Harry Potter books because while the Americanization was less with each book...it was still there.
WOAH, turns out books published after 2004 are actually different than the originals!
YA not existing until the 90s makes a lot of sense with my memory then. I read ALL the Christopher Pike novels. Years later I would be thoroughly disgusted at him: http://www.dailysabah.com/books/2014/09/07/a-cautionary-tale Oh Pike had more than just kissing, there was...SEX! Even abortion! There was also Fear Street by R.L. Stine and some Jerry Spinelli.
I couldn't find my reading type. Everything seems good so I would basically just start at one end of the bookshelf and work my way through...even the Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales on a dare and then Hans Christian Anderson because why not? Then, I read Jurassic Park, my first adult novel and the following school year had my teacher reading Goosebumps aloud. Goosebumps #1 So, it was all her fault. I started reading all the juvenile and YA horror except for Michael Crichton, I read all of his stuff, too. I read little else until 1997 when Star Wars and Buffy took over.
I remember reading The Outsiders for school. It was okay. There was also this diary of a teenage girl who was also an alcoholic. We also watched The Outsiders which most of the girls enjoyed because of the shirtlessness and everything.
They do still do novelizations of the movies for kids, we have all of them at the library and they are usually pretty popular (though I always find it hilarious when the movie is based on a book so the novelization is based on a movie that was based on a book...). But, yeah, I have no problem with the Jurassic Park and Star Wars children's books. It's the weird tween trend with NonFiction that bugs me. My theory is that it probably censors things so that teachers might be more comfortable teaching them in class. The 'Unbroken' and 'Boys in the Boat' adaptations have the same amount of pages as the regular editions.
Oh do NOT get me started on genres! Some genius in our system decided to put genre labels on the YA books and I tried to explain that nothing written today fits into ONE genre anymore. Stop trying to put a label on everything!
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No, I was specifically referring to what used to be done for films appealing to younger viewers and adults where there are junior novelizations AND adult novelizations of the same film. I find those more interesting because you would think they would be the same but they're not especially depending on which script they received and how they interpreted things. Heck, the junior novelization for TFA is more gut wrenching than the adult one! TFA was the first time I had seen both novelizations available in a long time...although being published much later was annoying...but not as annoying as Marvel's tactic of only printing half the film in their novelizations.
though I always find it hilarious when the movie is based on a book so the novelization is based on a movie that was based on a book...).
Again, I love these because they often provide insight into the filming process. They're usually off the shooting script or an even earlier one so in the pre-internet era, this was the only way you knew about possible deleted scenes. Then, when these deleted scenes were actual scenes from the book and didn't make the actual film? RAGE
Sometimes, younger readers' editions are an excuse to have a different format or add in notes for educators or parents like suggested discussions and writing activities. Other times, yes, words are changed to make reading easier or it's sanitized. That part's not new at all so I'm not bothered, like being able to choose from Disney Cinderella or the original Brothers Grimm version.
There's another thing...marketing. Did you know that Scholastic and Bloomsbury both came out with ADULT versions of the Harry Potter novels? They were exactly the same but printed in a size more like adult books and with much more boring covers. I've noticed that sometimes these younger reader versions have the same cover but sometimes, there's definitely a marketing aspect to make it more appealing.
Money...I can't remember about Unbroken but Boys on the Boat for younger readers is HUGE. I think if I were in the children's section of the store and had to attack someone, that would be one of my picks. Larger sizes, resembling textbooks, are more durable but also MORE EXPENSIVE!
So yeah, it all comes down to money.
The newer librarians won't believe me but I remember when our town library didn't even separate YA from Juvenile. It'd be marked on the spine and that was the end of it. Ah, the 90s.
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https://amzn.com/B00E31E30A
I know they did the first three but I can't guarantee or remember if they did all seven in this manner because it didn't sell as well.
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I've never seen that edition before! I don't know how I missed it. Thank you!
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Since you collect different versions, I'm curious about your opinion. For a few years now, my mom's been thinking how I should replace my books. She even suggested getting me new ones and giving the originals to my nephews but I was too sentimental so we gave the new ones to my nephew. Also, they smelled like cigarette smoke...one of the few Amazon fails.
I always thought if I were to buy new copies, I would want the UK versions so I've been thinking about buying the new illustrated editions through UK Amazon, what do you think?
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I love the new U.K. illustrated editions! I don't usually buy the whole series, just the first book, but these are so nice I might buy all seven. (I already have the first book.) The new American paperbacks illustrated by Kazu Kibuishi are nice, too - when you line them up on the shelf, the spines make an image of Hogwarts Castle.
If you wanna save on shipping for the U.K. editions, maybe try Abe Books or Book Depository?
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I've seen the new Kibuishi and they're nice but...I don't think I could ever get new paperbacks like that. My first four books are all paperbacks...another reason my mom and I were thinking about a replacement set. For the first four, I would read the hardback from the library and buy the paperback once it came out but by OotP, I needed to read it IMMEDIATELY!!! So, I have 5,6 and 7 in hardback.
Hmm, those are good ideas. I'll compare them with UK Amazon...I've heard the shipping for UK Amazon really isn't that much and the last time I looked with the conversion rate, the UK version on their site was actually cheaper than the American version on the American site!
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Oh and I know about how the books have the original scripts, for a long time that was the only way to read about Biggs and Luke's friendship! That and listening to the radio drama...oh I wish they would do a radio drama for TFA! That would be AWESOME!!!!!
I remember those Harry Potter books, but the text was the same (well, the same as the UK edition??? I know the first US printing of Sorcerer's Stone had some British-isms switched out, like "torch" and "trainers" but they stopped that after the third book I think?)
Well, technically YA didn't "exist" in the publishing world until the 90s, but all we had were those awful Sweet Valley High and Christopher Pike novels LOL! I remember that sad little corner of my library, mostly I think they pulled them out due to content, so much kissing/making out in the Pike novels...I remember blushing while reading them! Funny what sticks in your mind. There is a reason I went right to adult books!!
I know my YA Lit class pointed to "The Outsiders" as one of the "first" (I'm using a lot of quotes, sorry) YA books and it took awhile for the publishing world to catch on that maybe teens DO read and they could market directly to them.
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WOAH, turns out books published after 2004 are actually different than the originals!
(hugs my originals even being US)
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/about/books/differences.html
YA not existing until the 90s makes a lot of sense with my memory then. I read ALL the Christopher Pike novels. Years later I would be thoroughly disgusted at him:
http://www.dailysabah.com/books/2014/09/07/a-cautionary-tale
Oh Pike had more than just kissing, there was...SEX! Even abortion! There was also Fear Street by R.L. Stine and some Jerry Spinelli.
I couldn't find my reading type. Everything seems good so I would basically just start at one end of the bookshelf and work my way through...even the Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales on a dare and then Hans Christian Anderson because why not? Then, I read Jurassic Park, my first adult novel and the following school year had my teacher reading Goosebumps aloud. Goosebumps #1
So, it was all her fault. I started reading all the juvenile and YA horror except for Michael Crichton, I read all of his stuff, too. I read little else until 1997 when Star Wars and Buffy took over.
I remember reading The Outsiders for school. It was okay. There was also this diary of a teenage girl who was also an alcoholic. We also watched The Outsiders which most of the girls enjoyed because of the shirtlessness and everything.
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