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opheliahyde August 17 2012, 19:54:35 UTC
An unpopular opinion about this character: I have a couple? /o\ First of all, I don't really believe in R+L=J? I mean, I believe something happened between Lyanna and Rhaegar, but I don't think Rhaegar is Jon's father? And even if he was, I don't think it would matter all that much to Jon? Ned is and always will be his father, Jon cared about who his mother was, so I kind of don't like when he's stylized as a Targaryen or when he accepts he's a Targaryen wholeheartedly because he would be hyperfocused on his mother being a Stark. Also, Jon's whole arc is deeply, deeply entrenched in the Starks of Old, the Kings In The North and the Children of the Forest. I mean, the Starks BUILT the Wall with the help of The Children of the Forest and they're one of the few families that sent their sons to serve there. Jon is just... too Stark-ish to be anything other than that, It would seriously come out of left-field for me. And secondly, I don't think or want or see him in any sort of position of power? He's been given the chance over and over and he refuses because The Watch is where he belongs; one of the things he repeats is the Wall is mine. I just don't imagine him as Lord of Winterfell because, oh god, that actively terrible for him? Like, he REALLY doesn't want it anymore? He has happy imaginings, but deep-down he's actuely aware of the fact that he wanted it SO BADLY growing up, but now it's within his grasp, but like Robb is dead most of the Starks are dead, his family is gone and what made Winterfell home doesn't exist anymore--he actually says a version of this in ADWD, that Winterfell no longer exists; he never wanted THIS, he never wanted Winterfell to be given to him in this way; he's deeply shameful for ever wanting it and I just don't see him accepting or really want him to accept? And tbh, he wouldn't be a good king for the Iron Throne either. He's better on the wall or I want him to be ~special in really awful ways? Like King of the Others ways /o\ I just don't see him living happily ever after or bittersweet ever after, I honestly don't see him living to see the end of the series, IF he comes back and I just don't imagine him as a hero.

One thing I wish would have happened with this character in canon: I'm actually really satisfied with Jon's arc? It makes sense to me and I feel like removing any aspect kind of derails that. But! I do kind of wish for more flashbacks and more time at Winterfell and there's a part of me that's still really intrigued by the idea of him not choosing to go back with Sam, Pyp, and Grenn and going on and meeting up with Robb, and what might have happened if he did that. It would COMPLETELY derail his arc, but it gives me BROTHERS feels and idk. It would be also interesting to see Jon and Cat's relationship from that perspective, especially if I think he would agree with a lot of her suggestions and Robb would just be taken aback by that.

An idea I have for the character that I haven't written yet/won't ever write for whatever reason: I have A TON of AUs and fic ideas that include Jon, but I feel like the one that's the most Jon-specific is the one in my head where Brandon Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen still die, but Lyanna and Elia live, and Jon has a mom, but no dad? I mean, it's mostly Lyanna-specific because I am intrigued by the idea of her living and raising her bastard and Ned taking care of her and just her refusal to name a man who was Jon's father? In my head she always tells him that Ned's the only father he needs. I just think it would be an interesting 'verse to play with in that Jon is still in the same position, but he has a mom, but he's still a sibling in all the ways that matter to the Stark kids and Ned is still his father figure and I still think he'd want to join the Watch, so yeah, THAT FIC. Also, Elia comes to visit and she and Lyanna are friends and it's gr8.

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