Damon Lindelof talks STID, Red Shirts, Easter Eggs, Cumberbatch and loads more

[that_therapist]

Really good read this. Lindelof talks about how casting Cumberbatch had them go back and tweak the script, how much time has passed between the films, why they didn't film on the Paramount lot and loads more. Will take a while to get through it, but well worth a look.

http://collider.com/damon-lindelof-star-trek-2-into-darkness-interview/220137/

Comments

[ayaneva]

The thing I love most about the Abramsprise is that it is SO massive. I grew up with the Enterprise-D, so when I think Enterprise, I think BIG FUCKING SHIP that the rest of the fleet drools over, which is what the Galaxy Class ship was. I always wished that the Prime universe Enterprise NCC-1701 was bigger, although I understand why it was designed the size that it was and it totally makes sense. Still, my need to have "my" Enterprise be the most awesome ship ever is satiated by having a big ass, sparkly ship. I wonder if they fixed the scaling error with the deck windows in this movie? Oh the arguments that were had on the official 2009 movie forum about the ship size, the shuttle bay, and the windows. lol We busted out MS paint and diagrams and I willingly did MATH

[that_therapist]

Actually, have they made the JJprise about the same size as the original Enterprise? If you've seen the nine minute prologue, Kirk and Bones look pretty much the right size next to ship that's around 300 metres long. But what do I know? I sucked at math in school. lol All I know is that the TARDIS is 2.75 metres tall for the past fifty years, and long may she stay that way.

[ayaneva]

No, it's much bigger. Although in the 9 minute under water shot, you're right that it looks to be about 300 meters, which is definitely the wrong size. Goddammit, ILM! My guess is that it's an intentional ILM sizing error for aesthetic reasons. If the ship was the proper size Kirk and Spock would be little specks and you'd barely be able to see them under water. ILM has given an approximate size for the Abramsprise that is between 725.35 meters long and 763 meters long, depending on which designer you ask on any given day. Unless, of course, they've changed their minds and scaled it back down, although I doubt it because JJ was the one who wanted it scaled up in the first place

[that_therapist]

Right, let's try this again. I replied to this last night, and it never posted. I can't even remember most of what I wanted to say now...

Anyway, I'm one of these people sticks his fingers in his ears and refuses to believe this 700 metre malarkey until it's mentioned on screen and therefore becomes canon. Sorry! lol But it does seem that ickle Kirk and Bones being the just-about-right relative size while swimming into the airlock seems to have upset the apple tart once again!

And I remember discussions just like that from when the film came out from when I was on message boards! Is startrekmovie.com still active, or have Paramount taken it off-line?

[ayaneva]

lol I hate it when LJ does that. If I'm typing a long reply or comment, I sometimes save it in word. I've lost one too many comments to Frank the goat chewing on the wires.

As for the size of the ship, I figure the people who designed it are the ultimate authorities on what size the ship is supposed to be since they made it. If they say it's 725+ meters long then I certainly won't tell them that they're wrong. They rendered it after all. I just go with the flow and create an in-universe explanation for the size differential- more for my own amusement than out of necessity. If ILM changes their mind and says it's only 300 meters after all than I'll go with that too. I'm really not too hung up on the size, tbh. I'm always curious about why people really hate the ship being larger than 300 meters. It's a different universe so there's absolutely no reason for the ship to be the same size as it was in the Prime universe. It could be but there's nothing that says it has to be. It could go the other way and be only 150 meters instead or

[that_therapist]

Right, now that LJ is now back in fine working order and not getting attacked my malicious virus hacker people... XD I was also unaware that the goat had a name! :o

I like your thoughts of the size of the ship, and like you, I'm not too hung up on the size at the end of the day. As long as they deliver unto me reasonably entertaining movie that reminds me of Trek, I'm happy. But I've seen some people across message boards that totally flip when the subject is brought up. lol I'm not big on the nacelles or the Budweiser brewery for Engineering, but she's an OK ship at the end of the day.

Sounds like the Paramount board went something like the same way the happened to startrek.com when CBS revamped and reopened it. Shit heads and bullshit moderation took charge. CBS are more interested in the st.com store than anything else on that rubbish site.