Curse You Science H. Looooooooogic!!! (To be Shouted in the Key of Khaaaaaaan!)
Because not every post can be a walking post. :D
The New Scientist posted an article about research done by a scientist at Johns Hopkins. According to him, warp drive is impossible because hydrogen atoms would cook everyone inside the Enterprise before they achieve warp drive. Or something.
D:
Thanks, New Scientist, for stomping on the dreams of Trek fans everywhere. How to we supposed to initiate first contact with the Vulcans NOW??? OT, but I guess they have more time to contemplate sci-fi science now that the space program has been severely slashed, hah.
So I'm not gonna lie, a LOT of this conversation is over my head. I kinda found this link accidentally. Can any of our own resident GQMFs who are strong in science-fu help break it down for me? As stated in the comments, wouldn't the shields protect them from flying hydrogen atoms? And once you get to warp you're golden, right, because that is the moving of the space around the ship, not the ship itself?
But even more fun(?) than the article itself? The comments section, because you just know this is a post designed to inspire a Trekker flame war. And best correction heading at a science magazine web site EVER:
Update: An earlier version of this story referred to the Borg using cloaking technology, which several readers pointed out is not supported by televisual evidence. Of course, we were speculating on the technology existing in the alternate universe created by J. J. Abrams. However, to avoid confusion we have amended the decloaking reference to cite the Romulans.
Starship pilots: Speed Kills, Especially Warp Speed
Updated 18:02 17 February 2010 by Valerie Jamieson, Washington DC
Star Trek fans, prepare to be disappointed. Kirk, Spock and the rest of the crew would die within a second of the USS Enterprise approaching the speed of light.
The problem lies with Einstein's special theory of relativity. It transforms the thin wisp of hydrogen gas that permeates interstellar space into an intense radiation beam that would kill humans within seconds and destroy the spacecraft's electronic instruments.
Interstellar space is an empty place. For every cubic centimetre, there are fewer than two hydrogen atoms, on average, compared with 30 billion billion atoms of air here on Earth. But according to William Edelstein of the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore, Maryland, that sparse interstellar gas should worry the crew of a spaceship travelling close to the speed of light even more than Romulans decloaking off the starboard bow.
Special relativity describes how space and time are distorted for observers travelling at different speeds. For the crew of a spacecraft ramping up to light speed, interstellar space would appear highly compressed, thereby increasing the number of hydrogen atoms hitting the craft.
Death Ray
Worse is that the atoms' kinetic energy also increases. For a crew to make the 50,000-light-year journey to the centre of the Milky Way within 10 years, they would have to travel at 99.999998 per cent the speed of light. At these speeds, hydrogen atoms would seem to reach a staggering 7 teraelectron volts - the same energy that protons will eventually reach in the Large Hadron Collider when it runs at full throttle. "For the crew, it would be like standing in front of the LHC beam," says Edelstein.
The spacecraft's hull would provide little protection. Edelstein calculates that a 10-centimetre-thick layer of aluminium would absorb less than 1 per cent of the energy. Because hydrogen atoms have a proton for a nucleus, this leaves the crew exposed to dangerous ionising radiation that breaks chemical bonds and damages DNA. "Hydrogen atoms are unavoidable space mines," says Edelstein.
The fatal dose of radiation for a human is 6 sieverts. Edelstein's calculations show that the crew would receive a radiation dose of more than 10,000 sieverts within a second. Intense radiation would also weaken the structure of the spacecraft and damage its electronic instruments.
Edelstein speculates this might be one reason why extraterrestrial civilisations haven't paid us a visit. Even if ET has mastered building a rocket that can travel at the speed of light, he may be lying dead inside a weakened craft whose navigation systems have short-circuited.
Edelstein presented his results on Saturday at the American Physical Society meeting in Washington DC.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18532-starship-pilots-speed-kills-especially-warp-speed.html
The New Scientist posted an article about research done by a scientist at Johns Hopkins. According to him, warp drive is impossible because hydrogen atoms would cook everyone inside the Enterprise before they achieve warp drive. Or something.
D:
Thanks, New Scientist, for stomping on the dreams of Trek fans everywhere. How to we supposed to initiate first contact with the Vulcans NOW??? OT, but I guess they have more time to contemplate sci-fi science now that the space program has been severely slashed, hah.
So I'm not gonna lie, a LOT of this conversation is over my head. I kinda found this link accidentally. Can any of our own resident GQMFs who are strong in science-fu help break it down for me? As stated in the comments, wouldn't the shields protect them from flying hydrogen atoms? And once you get to warp you're golden, right, because that is the moving of the space around the ship, not the ship itself?
But even more fun(?) than the article itself? The comments section, because you just know this is a post designed to inspire a Trekker flame war. And best correction heading at a science magazine web site EVER:
Update: An earlier version of this story referred to the Borg using cloaking technology, which several readers pointed out is not supported by televisual evidence. Of course, we were speculating on the technology existing in the alternate universe created by J. J. Abrams. However, to avoid confusion we have amended the decloaking reference to cite the Romulans.
Starship pilots: Speed Kills, Especially Warp Speed
Updated 18:02 17 February 2010 by Valerie Jamieson, Washington DC
Star Trek fans, prepare to be disappointed. Kirk, Spock and the rest of the crew would die within a second of the USS Enterprise approaching the speed of light.
The problem lies with Einstein's special theory of relativity. It transforms the thin wisp of hydrogen gas that permeates interstellar space into an intense radiation beam that would kill humans within seconds and destroy the spacecraft's electronic instruments.
Interstellar space is an empty place. For every cubic centimetre, there are fewer than two hydrogen atoms, on average, compared with 30 billion billion atoms of air here on Earth. But according to William Edelstein of the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore, Maryland, that sparse interstellar gas should worry the crew of a spaceship travelling close to the speed of light even more than Romulans decloaking off the starboard bow.
Special relativity describes how space and time are distorted for observers travelling at different speeds. For the crew of a spacecraft ramping up to light speed, interstellar space would appear highly compressed, thereby increasing the number of hydrogen atoms hitting the craft.
Death Ray
Worse is that the atoms' kinetic energy also increases. For a crew to make the 50,000-light-year journey to the centre of the Milky Way within 10 years, they would have to travel at 99.999998 per cent the speed of light. At these speeds, hydrogen atoms would seem to reach a staggering 7 teraelectron volts - the same energy that protons will eventually reach in the Large Hadron Collider when it runs at full throttle. "For the crew, it would be like standing in front of the LHC beam," says Edelstein.
The spacecraft's hull would provide little protection. Edelstein calculates that a 10-centimetre-thick layer of aluminium would absorb less than 1 per cent of the energy. Because hydrogen atoms have a proton for a nucleus, this leaves the crew exposed to dangerous ionising radiation that breaks chemical bonds and damages DNA. "Hydrogen atoms are unavoidable space mines," says Edelstein.
The fatal dose of radiation for a human is 6 sieverts. Edelstein's calculations show that the crew would receive a radiation dose of more than 10,000 sieverts within a second. Intense radiation would also weaken the structure of the spacecraft and damage its electronic instruments.
Edelstein speculates this might be one reason why extraterrestrial civilisations haven't paid us a visit. Even if ET has mastered building a rocket that can travel at the speed of light, he may be lying dead inside a weakened craft whose navigation systems have short-circuited.
Edelstein presented his results on Saturday at the American Physical Society meeting in Washington DC.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18532-starship-pilots-speed-kills-especially-warp-speed.html