JOHNNY DESERVED THE PLACE HE GOT AT THE OLYMPICS

Apr 29, 2010 15:47

UNPOPULAR OPINIONS POST

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ataritastic April 29 2010, 06:24:15 UTC
UNPOPULAR OPINIONS? THIS IS THE PLACE FOR ME!

I agree with you. While Johnny performed his program better than Patrick did his, Patrick's program was harder, and earned him more points that way. It's sort of like, sure you played "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" really well, but he did a pretty good job at "Moonlight Sonata."

I love Johnny SFM, but I think a lot of his fans get their panties in their eyes when it comes to him.

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byronsbitch April 29 2010, 06:26:55 UTC
MTE. I THINK THAT CAN APPLY TO EVERYONE OF US. WE ARE SO BLINDED BY OUR LOVE FOR A PARTICULAR SKATER IT MAKES IT HARD TO BE OBJECTIVE

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ataritastic April 29 2010, 06:28:42 UTC
TRUE TRUE TRUE. BUT I THINK JOHNNY FANS ARE WORSE.

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byronsbitch April 29 2010, 06:33:26 UTC
JOHNNY DOES ATTRACT THE MORE EXTREME FANS IA

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magzness April 29 2010, 06:29:34 UTC
comparing figure skating to piano performance?
ARE YOU ME?

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ataritastic April 29 2010, 06:31:19 UTC
MAYBE

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magzness April 29 2010, 06:36:53 UTC
WELL IF YOU ARE PLEASE REVIEW YOUR STATISTICS STUFF FASTER KTHX

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montmorency April 29 2010, 06:56:45 UTC
Unfair analogy! I can play both pieces and the difference is far, far, far beyond the difference in JW's and PC's programs. That said, figure skating makes for a very bizarre competitive athletic endeavor and judging will always and forever be tainted.

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ataritastic April 29 2010, 07:03:09 UTC
Well yeah, it's a stretch of a simile. I'm not trying to say that Johnny's programs are the skating equivalent of kids songs, I'm just trying to illustrate a difference in difficulty.

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montmorency April 29 2010, 07:18:10 UTC
Yeah, I know. Figure skating isn't my forte and frankly I am wildly impressed at anyone on the planet who can launch themselves into the air, spin three times, then land backward and moving on one foot. But Johnny does things others don't and he very probably makes it look easier than it is. Dipping down to the touch the ice (a few others do this, too) is physically stressful because of placing the heart below the center of gravity (I'm explaining that very badly, sorry) and launching a triple with one arm up is not easy. Part of being an athlete, also, is knowing what you can and cannot carry through, so I admire those who try a quad but if they don't land it, well, do we give a basketball player points for trying for the three-pointer?

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ataritastic April 29 2010, 07:28:33 UTC
Well, it's not just what Chan was *trying* to do, but what he did do. His program was a lot more complicated than Johnny's, and the moves he did do earned him more points than Johnny did in his own. I'm not saying that Johnny's program was easy, because it most certainly wasn't - Olympian for a reason, HELL-O, but I don't think he would have deserved a higher score given Patrick's performance.

Besides! 6th in the world at the Olympics is nothing to be ashamed of!

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montmorency April 29 2010, 07:40:20 UTC
Patrick definitely has some nice footwork and skates faster than Johnny, while Johnny's jumps and artistry are superior. IMO of course. And that's part of the problem - judging is still subjective. How can it not be? I do believe Johnny should have placed above Chan and possibly Lambiel. I also believe quite firmly that the ISU has serious issues with Johnny's personality/flamboyance/whatever and permitted that to bleed into the scoring. This is why I am so protective of Johnny, because that is wrong and unfair and unsporting.

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likeviolins April 29 2010, 07:15:17 UTC
You're correct and I love you. /creep

PChan has more content in 45 seconds than J. Weir does in his entire program. I'd love to see the choreographic notes for PChan's short. The ice coverage is just insane.

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ataritastic April 29 2010, 07:16:48 UTC
CREEP ALL YOU WANT BB ;)

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