Catholic Friar Engages in Some Victim Blaming

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[natyanayaki]

You didn't say gay people are like pedophiles, I was just reacting to the article, the things people have said to me and to this last paragraph. I was agreeing with that part and just airing my frustration...

"Also, dude, it's not about whether pedophiles are sociopaths. It's simple: Abuse a child and you get consequences."

That's what I was talking about.

I think that there are so many humans surviving that there aren't rules. I do tend to think that individuals who target children are more like rapists and sociopaths in that it's about their ability to exert control over someone less powerful than they are. But with > 7 billion people surviving, I won't say that there isn't one person who would actually fall into the category of a pedosexual (vomit). Regardless, that's not something that the individual has the right to act upon. That's what the individuals who challenge me, comparing gay individuals to pedophiles don't understand! They just don't understand consent.

These people should get help, see a therapist, if they're men get chemically castrated. Something. NOT ACT ON IT. NOT ABUSE A CHILD! UGH!

But the problem is, these people are probably sociopathic on some level. If they 'interact' with people, it's probably superficial and they're probably good at hiding what they are. Plus, they probably aren't capable of realizing or caring about the consequences. When I think about people like this, I wonder...if we still lived in egalitarian gatherer-hunter societies would they have even survived? On some level, I've always felt that individuals who are inclined to be sociopats, serial rapists, child molesters/rapists wouldn't be able to survive because they wouldn't be able to function in an entirely egalitarian society. As it get easier and easier to survive alone...the thought is simply frightening.

[natyanayaki]

Oh they're most definitely homophobic, they tended to be individuals who reacted when they saw that I was very against Prop 8, or that I was helping a professor in his research about gay 18-26 year olds. For some reason, this Friar just reminded me of those people.

"Consent is everything to do with everything regarding who you can and cannot have sex with. Duh, jackasses!"

You understand that, I understand that...why don't they understand that? But it might be related to the finer points of abstinence only education that someone mentioned below. Some people just don't recognize the importance of consent, I wonder if I went back in time...how many of those people would recognize marital rape...

"Also, in societies that emphasize on empathy, compassion, kindness, and equality - e.g., a lot of Buddhist countries - have either 1. Less sociopaths or 2. Same amount of sociopaths, but since it's not beneficial to be sociopathic less of them come out of the woodwork."

That's not surprising. Also, I was thinking about what I learned about early human gatherer-hunter societies, societies that were egalitarian, that required individuals to work together, beyond empathy, communities in which food and other necessities were provided communally. In those societies I imagine if sociopaths were born or formed, they simply would die. They wouldn't be able to form bonds in order to get help (if injured etc), or if they rubbed another member of the community in the wrong way and the community felt that that person wasn't worth keeping around, they could leave him/her too. Yes that's harsh, but I can understand why.

Sorry my reply was so disjointed and short. Thinking about this topic is just so exhausting.

Sorry this reply is so disorganized! There was one more thing I wanted to add that goes in line with what we were discussing. One thing the media utterly fails (for the most part) to discuss is that like the physical or emotional abuse of young children, the sexual abuse of a young child can result in that child growing up to become a child molester/rapist (and that might explain some of the disgust that pedophiles feel about themselves). I'm not victim blaming, but there is evidence that shows that if a child is forced into sexual situations far before (s)he is ready to explore even with peers that is just confuses them. It can be harder for them to figure out their orientation, sexual pleasure won't be completely pleasureful (because even a child who is forced feels some physical positives from the stimulation, that's a major problem with all sex crimes against individuals of all ages), and because of their trauma some of them will become predators themselves. That's why...we'll never know the scope of Sandusky or these Priests' crimes. We'll never know all the children they harmed, or if any of those children grew up and began harming other children. It's a sad, disgusting, horrible cycle. In fact, who knows if Sandusky or any of those Priests were abused. I wouldn't be surprised.