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bestdaywelived August 25 2012, 18:56:11 UTC
I might actually watch that show, but the title makes me skin crawl. I hate that phrase "new normal". It's up there with "teachable moment" for irritating shit that people say.

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etherealtsuki August 25 2012, 19:14:33 UTC
And that's its White as hell outside of the prerequisite sassy black female supporting character. Even if it's Nene, you won't catch me watching it because it looks bad and an obvious attempt to siphon some of Modern Family's success.

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shadwrayvn August 25 2012, 19:24:08 UTC
I agree the title of the show is so cringe worthy but the plot sounds pretty interesting.

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recorded August 26 2012, 04:03:36 UTC
I love "teachable moment"! Why the hate?

My speech teacher used it all the time and I just thought it was so cute, non-negative and enables addressing ways to improve without bruising egos.

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etherealtsuki August 25 2012, 19:16:44 UTC
Did they banned Modern Family too?

Ugh, Utah. Stay appalling.

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layweed August 25 2012, 19:22:59 UTC
Well it's a different network, so you'd have to ask the local ABC affiliate.

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jettakd August 25 2012, 19:23:04 UTC
I don't think I'll like the show: it's like taking Klaine from Glee but older, making both of them white, and stripping all the charm that makes people like Klaine to make it. Even the Mercedes-esque friend but again without all the charm and talent that she has. Hell, it's even Ryan Murphy.

That said, it's absolutely disgusting that they would ban it.

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tadpool August 25 2012, 19:27:56 UTC
Actually, people say this is taking Rachel's dads' story and making both of them white.

The show sounds horrible to me but ia that it shouldn't be banned for the "sanctity of marriage" reason. ("offensive characterizations" on the other hand...)

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jettakd August 25 2012, 19:35:26 UTC
Yeah I can definitely see that as well, and once again I find Hiram and Leroy much more charming than these two. I've personally just seen the Klaine arguments more since I'm in that part of fandom.

But yes, offensive characterization or no, this show shouldn't be banned on the basis that Utah is pulling with this.

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pleasure_past August 25 2012, 19:28:42 UTC
tbh I fully expect this show to be a complete train wreck anyway.

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layweed August 25 2012, 19:32:22 UTC
Isn't that kinda the case for all of the newer NBC sitcoms though, lol.

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koshkabegemot August 26 2012, 00:14:40 UTC
I first read "NBC sitcoms" as "NBC shitcoms" and I was like, "That's oddly appropriate."

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dawn9476 August 25 2012, 19:33:44 UTC
I really want this show to do well because I don't want to see One Million Moms thinking they got another scalp if this show ends up failing.

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pleasure_past August 25 2012, 20:18:09 UTC
I felt the same way about South of Nowhere after Concerned Women for America flipped a shit about it. That show sucked so hard, but I watched it every week until the end out of spite (and because I was young and didn't understand that not all representation was good representation).

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slurp August 27 2012, 07:23:51 UTC
Why don't you think South of Nowhere was good representation? Just wondering, I've only seen parts of the show.

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pleasure_past August 27 2012, 09:08:13 UTC
I definitely don't remember anywhere near everything and there's probably some YMMV involved, but I was a lesbian high schooler at the time and:

It did kind of bug me that Spencer and Ashley were both constantly flirting not only with guys but with the same guy. Aiden's whole role in the first two or three seasons seemed to be to play a stand-in for every straight male who has ever wanted to have a threesome with a lesbian couple. Now, for the flirting-with-guys-in-general thing, I understand that sexuality is weird and sometimes lesbians do flirt with or have sex with guys for a variety of reasons, but at the time it just felt to me like it was playing right into the "No one under the age of 27 is a real lesbian," narrative I felt like I was hearing all over the place. I felt like it contributed to a culture where young queer women are never taken seriously. We definitely weren't/aren't taken seriously to the extent that young queer men are. When I was around sixteen years old I was in the habit of specifying that I was "A lesbian- ( ... )

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