Repubs who Passed Stand Your Ground Say Zimmerman should be Arrested

Mar 20, 2012 18:20

Stand Your Ground fathers: Trayvon Martin's killer should likely be arrested, doesn't deserve immunity ( Read more... )

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milleniumrex March 21 2012, 01:34:14 UTC
The case clearly doesn't fall under even the broadest standard of "stand your ground".

It's kind of a dumb law to begin with, but it certainly was never intended to mean "Harass someone for no reason, stalk them, confront and assault them, and then murder them when they resist".

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layweed March 21 2012, 01:42:32 UTC
This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the post on it below. How the hell does this come under that definition? You would have to have a really screwed up view of what happened to justify it under "stand your ground".

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nyxelestia March 21 2012, 01:57:39 UTC
I think it says something about the case that even the guys who passed the law Zimmerman wants to use as a defense are saying his case doesn't fall under its protection.

“The guy lost his defense right then,” said Peaden. “When he said ‘I’m following him,’ he lost his defense.”

That's right on the head. Zimmerman was in no way being threatened - Martin wasn't even approaching him (and even if Martin had been, just an approach does not count as a threat, unless he was carrying a weapon at the time).

No matter how broad the language, all homicide defenses and immunity laws depend on a core factor, which is imminent threat - the only way homicide or assault is justified is if you are in immediate danger. If not, then it was murder.

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stormqueen280 March 21 2012, 02:49:26 UTC
Apparently, the only ones who think differently are the local policemen.

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beoweasel March 21 2012, 06:28:31 UTC
And people on Fark.

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tiger0range March 21 2012, 19:18:42 UTC
The people on Fark will believe anything as long as it gets them the lulz and a Totalfark sponsorship.

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lickety_split March 21 2012, 02:30:02 UTC
“The guy lost his defense right then,” said Peaden. “When he said ‘I’m following him,’ he lost his defense.”

Thank you! So tired of people justifying Zimmerman's actions.

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chantalzola March 21 2012, 02:39:32 UTC
Are people really justifying them? (I honestly don't know, I haven't read anything where they were, but I've also been away).

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lickety_split March 21 2012, 02:46:03 UTC
Try bringing it up in conversation tomorrow. I promise you at least one person will expose their racism before lunch.

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chantalzola March 21 2012, 03:00:10 UTC
Oh man =( That's really, really, really horrible.

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babysinclair March 21 2012, 02:54:50 UTC
*Insert generic OMG REPUBS BEING CORRECT GIF/a broken clock is right twice a day quote*

BUT SERIOUSLY THEY THINK IT'S WRONG THAT THE MURDERER IS NOT ARRESTED!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am ashamed!

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erunamiryene March 21 2012, 03:48:35 UTC
Should "likely" be arrested? (I get why they have to say it, but still.)

I agree with the Castle Doctrine, but it's fucking nutso to think it extends everywhere, including GETTING OUT OF YOUR CAR TO CHASE A KID DOWN BECAUSE HE'S EXISTING WHILE BLACK "REAL SUSPICIOUS".

broad protections to those who claim they had reason to be afraid and to use deadly force

Reason to be afraid OF WHAT? That's the whole point. The kid had Skittles and fucking iced tea. YOU CHASED HIM DOWN AND MURDERED HIM.

TBH, I'd like karma to pay this fucker a visit, preferably in the form of Frank Castle.

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