Wikipedia Shuts Down Italian Site In Response To Berlusconi's New Wiretap Act

Oct 04, 2011 22:40

Due to the prospect of a new law in Italy that would give those writing on the internet just 48 hours to remove a post or face a €12,000 fine, the Italian homepage for Wikipedia is now redirecting to a statement specifically opposing the proposed legislation.
The proposed law is known as the "DDL intercettazioni" (Wiretapping Act), and critics ( Read more... )

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freeze_i_say October 5 2011, 15:07:49 UTC
Fascism is an italian word for a reason

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serenachan October 5 2011, 16:20:54 UTC
Actually, fascism is an English word. Fascismo is an Italian word.

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freeze_i_say October 5 2011, 16:32:25 UTC
Unlike Italians, I'm not well-acquainted with either :)

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serenachan October 5 2011, 16:37:53 UTC
Are you well acquainted with the word ignorance? Because you're showing a lot of it right now. Italians are figthing this like hell, and you just made a really stupid comment.

Also, being acquainted with dictatorships - studying them - is the most important thing to do to make sure it doesn't happen again. So, I don't know, maybe crack a book and learn something about it?

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freeze_i_say October 5 2011, 17:06:15 UTC
Italians keep re-electing Berlusconi, and he's one of the longest-serving Prime Ministers the country has ever had - doesn't look like much of a fight there to be honest :)

Oh and here's a new non-Italian word for you: "dimokratia". Good luck with it!

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serenachan October 5 2011, 17:11:08 UTC
You are one of the dumbest people I've ever had the displeasure to talk with on the Internet. You sound really, really stupid, not to mention racist.

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freeze_i_say October 5 2011, 18:28:50 UTC
from the article titled "Italy's *fascist-style* blog gagging" you linked to:

http://italychronicles.com/italys-fascist-style-blog-gagging/

"It’s one of those 'Only in Italy' moments."

that sounds racist right?

oh and stay classy with the way you address someone you disagree with in the comments of your own post!

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serenachan October 5 2011, 18:35:10 UTC
Oh, you found an article from an Internet blogger who said that! That means it's true! BRB, let me find an article on the Internet about creationism, that must be true!

And I'm only calling it like I see it :) you sound ignorant, sorry if it hurts your feelings if I say so :) when you go around making ignorant statements, like calling a whole country fascist because of the actions of a few lawmakers, actions that the people of the country are fighting like hell... well, those people are gonna call you ignorant.

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freeze_i_say October 5 2011, 18:47:57 UTC
lol you linked to that article, I didn't say I necessarily I agreed with it. In fact, I only just noticed it and I just think it's hilarious that the article *YOU LINK TO IN YOUR OWN POST* is using words like fascism and phrases that imply this is not unusual for this specific country ... y'know, like the stuff you are having a fit over in the comments of your own post :)

and again with the exaggeration hahahaha

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serenachan October 5 2011, 18:58:27 UTC
So we can only link articles we 100% agree with? I can point to more than one article here, every day, which uses problematic words, or words we don't agree with, and we link them anyway to discuss them. You quoted from it like the fact that some person on the Internet wrote it means it's true. I disagree. If I wanted to be a douchebag, I could say "people bombing abortion clinics? only in the US", "people defending a pedophile and preventing him from going to prison? only in France", I could do it with every country in the world. I bet if I go through various countries' tags here, I'll find something for each of them to say "only in ___".
The difference is, I don't do it, because I know better than to judge a whole country based on the actions of a few, or of some politicians.

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freeze_i_say October 5 2011, 18:55:14 UTC
"Oh, you found an article from an Internet blogger who said that!"

just to clear that up: it's the "As Alex Roe of Italian Chronicles notes" article you link to in the post you made right above. Didn't you check *your own post*? :)

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serenachan October 5 2011, 19:01:28 UTC
Uhm, yes? You still found the article. You found the link on here, and checked it out. Is "found" not the right word? Really, are we arguing semantics? I had read that article before you quoted it to me. That one, and the one I posted, were the only two English-language articles that existed (last time I checked) about this law. I choose the one where the author didn't sound offensive.

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freeze_i_say October 5 2011, 19:04:11 UTC
you tell me

"Really, are we arguing semantics?"

"Actually, fascism is an English word. Fascismo is an Italian word."

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serenachan October 5 2011, 19:08:58 UTC
Ohh come on, that was a joke from a language student! :)
But what I meant in the comment you replied to, is that I read the article you quoted, I just disagreed with it.

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MOD NOTE celtic_thistle October 5 2011, 18:59:07 UTC
Personal attacks are against the rules. This is your only warning.

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Re: MOD NOTE serenachan October 5 2011, 19:04:50 UTC
I'm sorry. I regretted writing "dumb" and "stupid" as soon as I hit send.

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