Former Tory Lord Chancellor says Christians must have the right to bar gays

Feb 02, 2011 17:01

 Lord Mackay of Clashfern has argued that Christians must be free to act on their consciences when it comes to gay rights.

The former Lord Chancellor under Margaret Thatcher and John Mayor said insisting that Christians abide by equality laws - such as in the case of hotel owners - was “Orwellian”.

Last month, gay couple Martin Hall and Steven Preddy ( Read more... )

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kiri_l February 2 2011, 18:04:00 UTC
“To equate civil partnerships with marriage is a big step to take. For the law to force people to equate the two, and penalise those who do not, is an Orwellian leap.”

and right there is the EXACT reason why same-sex marriages must become legal. Civil partnerships are not considered equal.

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mercystars February 2 2011, 18:06:49 UTC
Who would Jesus shun?

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escherichiacola February 2 2011, 18:12:37 UTC
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself

no homo though

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popehippo February 2 2011, 18:17:34 UTC
"Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.

...Unless they like Cher."

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ceasetoknow February 2 2011, 18:30:37 UTC
or do not judge lest ye be judged...

unless you have TEH GHEY SEX then you're going to hell

/ugh

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popehippo February 2 2011, 18:10:18 UTC

Writing for ConservativeHome, Lord Mackay, who has frequently voted against gay rights, argued: “Most people still affectionately regard marriage, as understood by English law and the Church, as deserving of its special status.

“To equate civil partnerships with marriage is a big step to take. For the law to force people to equate the two, and penalise those who do not, is an Orwellian leap.”

Read: BEING NICE IS JUST TOO HARD. ;______; BAWWWWWWWWWWWWW

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spinnigold February 2 2011, 18:13:32 UTC
“Consider an atheist who seeks to work as a teacher in a state school in full knowledge that the law requires a daily act of religious worship. Do we say his beliefs should be left at home? Do we say he has stepped into the public sphere and his personal views ought not be accommodated?

“No, the law allows liberty of conscience. A Christian deserves the same.”

What kind of bullshit example is this?

If the 'poor oppressed Christians' are allowed the right to bar homosexuals, then I want the right to bar Christians from whatever I've decided. ...Oh, wait.

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lisaee February 2 2011, 18:14:33 UTC
Orwellian

Orwellian

Why do they always invoke bloody 1984?

I'm so bored of this case, of the discussion about ~Christian oppression~ and of the Mail's weepy articles about the Bulls and their religious hardships.

And Civil Partnerships should be regarded on the same level. I know plenty of people who would've preferred to have the former just to get away from this bullshitty superiority.

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redstar826 February 2 2011, 18:16:14 UTC
I always enjoy telling right wingers who bring up Orwell that he was a socialist. That usually makes for a fun conversation.

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lisaee February 2 2011, 18:23:30 UTC
Honestly, it amuses me to no end. I get such glee out of informing people who blatantly didn't listen in GCSE English of Orwell's democratic socialist leanings.

I usually find that none of them have actually ever read 1984, let alone anything like Homage to Catalonia.

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onlyghosts February 2 2011, 18:59:38 UTC
My dad actually interpreted 1984 as "what will happen if the left takes control of the government". Or something like that. I don't know what kind of sparknotes version he read.

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