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metatrix December 5 2010, 00:13:51 UTC
Serious question here. Are Christian universities considered real, 'legit' universities in the eyes of professional and graduate programs? Do students have trouble applying to these programs if their degree is from a private Christian college?

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free_spoons December 5 2010, 00:17:43 UTC
Not sure what you mean, but I also went to a private lutherin college and none of my classmates that wanted to go to med, law or get their mbas ever had a problem.

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rhonan December 5 2010, 01:30:52 UTC
Private schools owned my religious groups are no different than private universities owned by foundations, it all depends on who they are accredited by. If they are accredited by a reputable, academically rigorous accrediting body, their degrees will be recognized by other schools. If, like some fringe Christian schools, they are accredited by an accrediting body that exists only to accredit its member, not so much.

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rex_dart December 5 2010, 02:02:06 UTC
Seconding the note about accreditation; if the school's been accredited by a the right people, it's not an issue. For example, Loyola University in Chicago is a Catholic school, but it's well-respected and has a lot of non-Catholic students who go for the academics.

The crazy evangelical schools who'll boot you out for dressing the wrong way or being alone with someone of the opposite sex are the ones that'll cause problems, but those are also some of the ones that aren't accredited.

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jimmyblue December 5 2010, 00:19:12 UTC
I know that logic has no place in this situation, but seriously: "She was telling us what her sexual preference is"? Doesn't someone do that when they reveal they're in a same-sex relationship? Are all the straight teachers required to pretend they're completely celibate? Do these people even listen to themselves when they talk?

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imissimissyou December 5 2010, 00:21:25 UTC
this!

I don't understand why people are so scared of it all :S

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bowtomecha December 5 2010, 01:31:16 UTC
i wonder what happens to instructors with live in girlfriends/boyfriends. i wonder, if so, how they differentiate between say a male roommate and a boyfriend. i wonder if they allow instructors to live with unrelated members of the opposite sex. i wonder what happens if they somehow find out about a past abortion. i wonder what they do about divorcees. i wonder what they do if the instructor marries a person of a different faith and the kids are brought up with that faith. i wonder what criteria and proof are necessary in order to show that one's in "good moral standing" to be able to teach at such a school. i wonder, wonder, wonder who, who wrote the book of love? i wonder why people get it mixed up with the bible.

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dreammeanyway December 5 2010, 08:11:22 UTC
I've never been able to figure why, but homosexuality is seen as a Bigger Sin than having heterosexual sex outside of marriage. Even though all sins are equal. (don't quote me on that, been a long time since Christian high school).

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cymbal_monkey December 5 2010, 00:26:58 UTC
Coaches should be judged on their merits, not by who they choose as partners.

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snakeling December 5 2010, 08:59:23 UTC
Coaches Everyone should be judged on their merits, not by who they choose as partners.

There, corrected that for you.

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bowtomecha December 5 2010, 01:18:15 UTC
"He pretty much told me that once the baby was born she was going to get fired anyway, so it's better to do it sooner than later."

wow ok that really set me off. it makes no sense.

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rhonan December 5 2010, 01:37:54 UTC
It makes perfect sense to me. The school is a private, religious organization that teaches that homosexuality is a sin. They require faculty and staff to live their lives in keeping with the school's values.

She chose to work for a Christian school in a state that does not protect LGBT workers from employment discrimination. I don't agree with it, but she shouldn't be surprised that she was told to quit or be fired when she cam out. That's what she gets for choosing to live where her rights are not respected.

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romp December 5 2010, 01:45:31 UTC
That's what she gets for choosing to live where her rights are not respected.
You make a good point, one most straight people don't even know is an issue. But this line is pretty privileged.

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rhonan December 5 2010, 02:14:27 UTC
But this line is pretty privileged.

How so? She knew she was in a state that does not respect her or her partner enough to recognize that they have the same basic human rights as the rest of society. She chose to work for a religious group that is very open about its beliefs regarding her sexual orientation. I live in a city and county that have very strong anti-discrimination protections for the LGBT community. She still would have had no protection here because she chose to work for a religious group. It is the reality we live in, not the one we wished we lived in.

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jaded110 December 5 2010, 01:19:51 UTC
Wait a minute...

This woman is having a BABY and these idiots fire her anyway? Kudos to her for coming out, but it sucks that she lost her job when she's going to have a child to support soon.

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juliet316 December 5 2010, 04:15:29 UTC
And they were going to fire her for having the baby anyway.

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