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evewithanapple in ontd_political

Col. Williams entitled to military pension

Oct 16, 2010 11:59

WOODBRIDGE, Ont. - A Conservative bill to strip federal prisoners of their old-age pensions would not deny Col. Russell Williams his military pension.

A lawyer for Williams has said the former CFB Trenton commander intends to plead guilty Monday to two murders, two sex assaults and scores of break and enters.

When asked today about Williams receiving ( Read more... )

canada, military, stephen harper

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poetic_pixie_13 October 16 2010, 18:32:56 UTC

Fuck Harper, fuck the Tories and fuck this fucking government.

This bill is disgusting. But if anyone deserves to have their pension taken away from them it's this murdering, rapist douchenozzle.

abee October 16 2010, 18:33:49 UTC

WHAT.

rain_waltz October 16 2010, 18:45:11 UTC

BULLSHIT.

ladypolitik October 16 2010, 18:46:38 UTC

JFC, WHY.
No, why tho?
It's like some kind of sick prank.

(lol at seeing Woodbridge, ON news on ONTD_P. I'm like 10 minutes from Woodbridge. This is weirdly amusing to me.)

poetic_pixie_13 October 16 2010, 18:55:03 UTC

Gurl, that is so far away from me Toronto.

ladypolitik October 16 2010, 18:57:47 UTC

Oh, but not if I take Hwy 427/the 401 it aint~ ;)

poetic_pixie_13 October 16 2010, 19:28:44 UTC

This is true. But you'll have to trek out to Scarberia. But I like to think I'm worth it~

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antiotter October 16 2010, 18:47:38 UTC

I'm not sure how Canada's military justice system works, but under the U.S. military's Uniform Code of Military Justice, serious felonies usually result in "Forfeiture of All Pay & Allowances" and a Dismissal (officer version of an enlisted soldier's Dishonorable Discharge) as part of the sentence (along with prison time and demotion to the lowest rank), which also would result in an automatic disqualification from any veterans' benefits, including retirement pay.

Even if he's being tried in a civilian court, the military will usually want its own bite at the apple, and double-jeopardy doesn't apply, as they would nail him under the various "Conduct Unbecoming an Officer" charges.

So this bill would be redundant.

/Again, this would be against a hypothetical American military Colonel. No idea how the Canadian Forces would treat this.

evewithanapple October 16 2010, 19:22:27 UTC

That's what I was thinking when I read this- surely rape and murder qualifies you for a dishonourable discharge, which would mean no pension anyway. It's not like he's retiring of his own volition

So this bill would be redundant.

The bill doesn't just apply to military pensions, though- it takes away the retirement pension that's alotted to seniors. (I think ages 65+) So anyone in federal prison would have the payments cut off as long as they were incarcerated.