A little bit of clarity on the situation in Georgia.

Aug 10, 2008 12:45

First, I think some history is needed ( Read more... )

russia, ussr, georgia (the country)

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to_biased August 10 2008, 21:54:17 UTC
I agree that South Ossetia and Abkhazia should have their right to become independent states. And of course I agree that Georgia should stop terrorizing these places.

But if Russia's sole interest is protecting the people of South Ossetia, why are they bombing Georgian cities? And if Russia wanted South Ossetia to become independent, why are they handing out Russian citizenships without any preconditions to whoever wants them. That certainly hasn't helped calming down the region. If Putin (this whole thing has made it even more obvious that Medvedev is not the commander in chief) is really interested in Human Rights, I'll eat my hat. He's interested in protecting his influence in the area, not the people living there.

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ja_va August 10 2008, 22:01:09 UTC
Russia is no angel, of course. It was annoyed at Georgia for a long time. And- yes, it wants South Ossetia to join Russian Federation. Of course, it is also what South Ossetians want themselves.
Nobody is interested in human rights here, but I am appauled at the bias in US media and at the so-clearly-politically-motivated position of the US government, showing double standard.
How can we (and by "we" I mean the United States) claim any kind of moral right to be judging international problems and defend the democracy if we are no better than any other country- protecting OUR OWN INTEREST at any cost? Let's just admit it, than, and stop pretending to be "above everybody else" on subjects of justice and human rights.

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j_daisy August 10 2008, 23:25:42 UTC
How can we (and by "we" I mean the United States) claim any kind of moral right to be judging international problems and defend the democracy if we are no better than any other country- protecting OUR OWN INTEREST at any cost? Let's just admit it, than, and stop pretending to be "above everybody else" on subjects of justice and human rights.This is what is confusing for me. I don't understand how the U.S. (I'm American too, BTW) can maintain its position in Iraq and Afghanistan to maintain peace and rebuild the nations, and also tell Russia to get out of South Ossetia ( ... )

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ja_va August 11 2008, 17:50:49 UTC
Yes, exactly. If someone is to watch, say, CBS Nightly News, he or she will most likely get an idea that: Russia suddenly and without any excuse attacked peaceful country of Georgia for wanting to join the NATO, and should IMMEDIATELY WITHDRAW, end of story.
This is why I felt like some clarification is needed, and thank God we have internet and communities like this to voice what we feel is missing, otherwise it would be like Big Brother times with the News feeding you whatever they want and forming "the public opinion".

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synth___romance August 10 2008, 23:02:06 UTC
lol it was clear Medvedev wasn't the commander in chief the second he said he was putting Putin in his administration.

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Dude, it was an open secret jazzypom August 11 2008, 09:58:09 UTC
at Putin handpicked Medvedev as the President of Russia. After all that work Putin put in to make Russia strong, he doesn't want to take his hand off the wheel.

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Re: Dude, it was an open secret synth___romance August 11 2008, 15:30:43 UTC
yeah i know

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ja_va August 11 2008, 18:09:18 UTC
Yeah, you just have to LOOK at the guy to understand, that he is no "commander" of anything... That is why he was chosen (pretty much handpicked) for "the job".

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