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screamingintune June 15 2009, 07:41:03 UTC
Wow, that's a ghastly story. And yeah, I'd like to know the same: WHY did the doctors think they could do it, WHY did they want to do it? How bizarre...

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missmurchison June 15 2009, 13:02:59 UTC
It was done in this country for many years to Native Americans, blacks, and anyone deemed physically or mentally "unfit." Some states were doing it into the 1980s.

That's a point that doesn't get made often enough in the abortion controversy. If you give the state power over women's reproduction, the state can also deny women the right to have children.

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leprofessional June 15 2009, 07:46:00 UTC
The treatment of Roma people across Europe (even in so-called progressive countries like Italy and Britain) has been a travesty. We learnt about the holocaust No one ever talks about their plight, no one ever talks about the genocide that they suffered, and the active oppression that they continue to suffer to this day. Absolutely absolutely disgusting. :(

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leprofessional June 15 2009, 07:47:42 UTC
Who remembers when the two roma girls died while the Sunbathers in Italy continued to sit there and completely ignore their corpses... ugh

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londongirl14 June 15 2009, 08:00:51 UTC
that was awful and sick. they are racist to them because they are gypsies and you can also see that in spain and czek republic actually in almost every european country, they endure everything from segregrated schools to compounds. god its sick.

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happythree June 15 2009, 14:31:20 UTC
That is disturbing.

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screamingintune June 15 2009, 10:29:02 UTC
lol, careful, you might get the Joss Whedonites after you.

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missmurchison June 15 2009, 13:04:02 UTC
They're too busy apologizing to the Wiccans.

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screamingintune June 15 2009, 13:20:03 UTC
ROFL

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iluvhistory June 15 2009, 18:26:41 UTC
I think the article could've gone into more detail about WHY the doctors thought they could do this to her. The attitudes towards the Romani, etc.

Do you really think they would do that? Most of my fiance's family barely think of roma people as human. It's a really messed up part of Eastern European culture among non-roma.

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iluvhistory June 15 2009, 18:28:47 UTC
Also, I didn't see anything that said the Hungarian public were outraged by this whole debacle.

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iamcheryltweedy June 15 2009, 19:22:28 UTC
I always find it astonishing on ~internet Roma discussions~ how it seems to be mostly Americans who are flabbergasted by their mistreatment...and how there is INEVITABLY a European poster who comes on and defends it because we just "don't understand how dirty and thieving~ they are."

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sib0ney June 15 2009, 20:53:30 UTC
[i]we just "don't understand how dirty and thieving~ they are."[/i]

Man this pisses me of so much. A lot of people I know are ridiculously prejudiced about Romanis. Gah. It's that the only news you hear about them are negative ones, and those are stretched to fit the rest. Like here there's sometimes in the summer a group of Romanis along the road, stopping cars and forcing people to buy jewelry or such and then it gets bloated into something its not. And then you wonder why the Roma population is reluctant to integrate into the society.

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