This is Hillary Clinton's millennial "problem"

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Smart take-- This is Hillary Clinton's millennial "problem" https://t.co/JMqKJhDfMG
- Katrina vandenHeuvel (@KatrinaNation) September 24, 2016

Why is Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton underperforming among young voters

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[amw]

I agree with most of this article, right up to the point where it says millennials are anti-capitalist. That's some kind of wishful thinking right there, because the polls show third-party millennials favor Gary Johnson over Jill Stein, and no one is even talking about Mimi Soltysik

[maynardsong]

Yes, thank you for bringing up the stupid "young and liberal, old and conservative" chestnut. It's not a question of moving to the right as you age. It's a question of becoming more pragmatic and busy as you get older.

[lovedforaday]

I never bought the Millenials are more progressive than everyone else stuff. a good number of people probably broke for sanders because 1) he wasn't clinton and 2) he had the veneer of being anti-establishment. the US as is conservative as fuck, why would young white folks be any different.

[fka]

the Democrats lost me when they fucked Bernie over. that's why i'll be voting for Jill Stein.

[liliaeth]

except that they didn't fuck bernie over. Bernie tries to take advantage of the democrat party, and they gave him all the benefits that came with that. They may not have liked him, understandably so, since they have no reason to trust him, but they did nothing to fuck him over, despite his attempts to fuck them over.

Bernie lost, because the majority of democrats preferred Hillary, because Hillary is someone who can be trusted, and work with people, who can compromise and who doesn't behave like an arrogant know it all, the way that Bernie did.

The problem is that a lot of the Bernie or Bust fans can't handle the fact that they lost fair and square.

[blackjedii]

they did nothing to fuck him over, despite his attempts to fuck them over.

[lovedforaday]

I don't understand how Sanders was magically going to appeal to more independents when he couldn't even move the party base, older Black women specifically.

Who spoke out big time that they wanted a Populist, and wanted some new ideas, and thus have been trending towards Trump even when they admit they find him disgusting and abhorrent because he is not The Establishment.

so people are willing to vote for a literal white supremacist because he's not the Establishment? if that's the case, they most likely weren't going to vote for the democratic candidate no matter who the nominee was. i mean, shit, there are less abhorrent third parties out there if people want to send a message.

[blackjedii]

the whole problem with the two party system - there's a natural either / or and us vs them that you can't really use over and over again when most people are a spectrum of ideas and morals. The only reasons Republicans are holding on is thanks to the Gerrymandering, and even then, they are having a hella hard time holding the Tea Partiers in check given that they're the only group that is so perfectly lockstep.

The Democratic Party establishment really does not represent anyone other than the Democratic Party establishment. It's a problem because it becomes less about representing stuff and more self-survival. And that's not even mentioning that the whole Neoliberal thing is eating itself alive I feel like....

It's gonna be a hella bumpy next several years, regardless of the election.

[soliano]

If Hillary does not win, then the Millenials will suffer the most under Trump and his long term policies. If she does win, maybe they will be able to get something out of the presidency, but expecting Hillary to wave a wand and create a lot of things is not realistic. Even if she was in favor of a single payor system, without a substantial majority in both Houses of Congress it really does not matter what she or whoever the Democratic nominee might have believed. The Republican party is against any National Health Plan. The Millenial problem will cease to be a problem as the Boomers and Gen X's age out of the party. But without fixing electoral politics at the State level, the ability to affect the major issues that they press say they want will be limited, if not impossible.

It us politics. But politics requires an understanding of history and a long view as well as understanding what can be accomplished in the short term as politicians usually don't think much beyond the next election cycle.

[soliano]

That has been true the last 6 years. But I would advocate for the proposition that we have been better off with a Democrat in the White House than have Republicans control both branches. There are still things where the President on their own can make a difference. Major legislative initiatives is not one of those areas.

[tilmon]

"Many older people, including liberals, tend to be more conservative than younger voters. These ideological preferences are real, and we should take them as seriously as they should take the preferences of millennials. These older liberals would like their vision of society to prevail. They would like to win. It is therefore in their interests to discredit and defeat opponents of that vision, be they reactionary nativists or young anti-capitalists. One way to defeat them is to use their positions as public commentators in order to attack those opponents, to call them confused and unserious and dangerous. And so they have

[bitchsdangerous]

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