Wife cake and evil water: The perils of auto-translation

Jun 29, 2016 17:21

Wife cake and evil water: The perils of auto-translation


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world language teachers of ONTD? maynardsong June 30 2016, 00:16:02 UTC
How do you discourage kids from using Google Translate? How do you get them to use notes and the textbook? How do you get them away from trying to do things word for word?

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Re: world language teachers of ONTD? koushiba June 30 2016, 00:59:01 UTC
I'm not a teacher at all but damn, I had no idea kids used gt for school. I always used my textbook unless I wanted to use a word I didn't know that wasn't in my book.

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ioplokon June 30 2016, 02:16:19 UTC

Idk, maybe do some kind of in class activity to show how much it fails? Like google translate telephone or something? Or just more work on in class translation to get students used to doing that kind of work? Like maybe walking then thorough how you translated a passage step by step (looking at multiple word meanings, figuring out the grammar, and so on)?

I think some students will always turn to the computer, but maybe practice and confidence building can help for others? Honestly, tho, it's such a challenge!

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Re: world language teachers of ONTD? anguisel June 30 2016, 03:35:53 UTC
If you are grading papers, honestly make an example. State before you are giving back papers that you want to show them something. Take the question that was GT and put it on the board. Say 'the correct translation should be this' and write it out on the board. Then say 'HOWEVER google translate will give you this as an answer' and explain why it is wrong.

At the end of it all, pop down that if they just think they can use a faulty program to breeze through a lesson, they should rethink taking the class and that if they think a boss or someone whose language it is will give them a pass, they have a cold day in hell waiting for them.

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Re: world language teachers of ONTD? blueeowyn July 13 2016, 18:33:20 UTC
Playing the opposition, I have used Google Translate in my job and it can be useful. I was asked to test that a form could properly intake non-English characters and handle them properly. So, I was going to do the find stuff on-line and try that but didn't want to run into rule 34 at work. So, I grabbed some innocuous text (I think it was part of Twelfth Night) and ran that through Google Translate and put the results into the forms in testing. It gave me a 'realistic' test of characters from a variety of languages and character groups that I could then verify came back out in a way that didn't scream "WRONG" (which the original ones had ... even I can tell the difference between Cyrillic and a random square).

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