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fenchurchly May 18 2016, 05:14:30 UTC
I heard Rachel Maddow talk about it last night, apparently they'd pulled their media buys and hadn't planned any events in the state but changed gears over the weekend so that's why Hillary was campaigning there yesterday. At this point it's about avoiding the headlines/embarrassment of losing states she's won before or is expected to win.

That said, she's absolutely pivoted to the general already (as she should) and at the end of the day all of this is pretty meaningless. I do love Bernie but I dislike that his wins will be co-opted used by Republicans against Hillary in the general. The way to cut that off at the pass is for him to campaign for her after the nomination is locked up and encourage his supporters to get behind her, which I expect him to do.

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fenchurchly May 18 2016, 05:20:39 UTC
Hmmm, interesting. Admittedly I haven't read his remarks this week, but have seen the headlines about him dragging the Democratic party.

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odontv May 18 2016, 05:22:22 UTC
I don't see how it's embarrassing when she's been right on target this entire primary. Everything is playing out the way they want it to, and without having to dump a lot of money into too many states.

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fenchurchly May 18 2016, 05:24:10 UTC
If the headlines tomorrow read that she lost Kentucky, the narrative will be that her support is waning/not as strong as 08/that the Dems are fractured beyond repair going into the general. And if her team wasn't worried about this they wouldn't have put money back into media buys/had Hillary campaigning there yesterday after previously pulling out.

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fenchurchly May 18 2016, 05:28:14 UTC
CNN has but the AP, MSNBC, etc haven't officially called it. She's absolutely the "apparent winner" but I don't think it's official official.

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fenchurchly May 18 2016, 05:34:15 UTC
Yeah, I wanted to edit my post to say basically what you said but someone had replied to it already.

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odontv May 18 2016, 05:32:00 UTC
I think they decided to put money into it because they saw it was extremely close and wanted to try to tip the scale. Of course it sounds better to win, but even with Sanders's other recent victories the major narrative has been "it's not enough."

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cassiopeiaah May 18 2016, 08:54:02 UTC
I mean the narrative behind Hillary already is that she is inevitable but there isn't much enthusiasm behind it and this just perpetuates that. She should win this as a landslide. This should be a time when dems rally around her but instead she's losing somwhere she won. Even though she's def gonna get the nom it's a bad look it feeds into the narrative

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odontv May 18 2016, 05:29:23 UTC
I just don't see acting on an opportunity to win a state as a desperate ploy to avoid a crushing embarrassment of losing. This win/lose/win/lose back and forth thing has played itself out and I don't think a narrow Sanders victory would have actually been a big story.

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odontv May 18 2016, 05:56:45 UTC
There hadn't really been a lot of reliable polling coming out of the state that I ever saw, and Kentucky is not the same demographically as the other southern states she won by such large margins.

I mean, obviously we're just not going to see it the same way. But the media narrative I have been getting from a lot of general outlets are certainly not touting Kentucky as this make it or break it state for anyone.

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