Dolores Huerta slams Sanders; Bern Victims Question Her Record as an Activist

Mar 25, 2016 20:45


If you’ve been following the Democratic primary, you may have noticed that Bernie Sanders has positioned himself as a champion of the immigrant community. From the letter he sent to Barack Obama last week, to the work he, his campaign, and surrogates have done attacking other candidates’ positions, you would think that he has been a lifelong ( Read more... )

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dumpweeds March 26 2016, 06:16:49 UTC
hey, mods, can there be a rule for accepting posts with deliberately inflammatory titles? "bern victims" "bern outs" "hillarybots" "berniebots" and "bernie bros" etc they aren't productive and are being made specifically to flamebait and it's getting exhausting. unless the article is an actual discussion about actual berniebros (not just accusing all bernie supporters of being white and male), it's really not necessary.

edited: extra word

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emofordino March 26 2016, 07:01:58 UTC
cosigned!

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spidergwen March 26 2016, 07:07:19 UTC
I'm just ready for the dem primary to be over so we can unite and focus on the general. Till then it's going to be like this.

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spidergwen March 26 2016, 11:38:31 UTC
They always come around in the end, and '08was a lot more fractured! I have no worries Bernie will follow her lead, campaign and support her!!

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blackjedii March 26 2016, 11:46:09 UTC
^^^^

I'd also add - that is assuming that Bernie supporters identify as Democrat. Many will drift to third party a la Jill Stein.

orrr, quite possibly... Donald Trump.

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fishphile March 26 2016, 11:51:44 UTC
I've been trying to tell people to stop assuming Bernie supporters are democrats. They're not listening. I think democrats may fall in line, but a huge chunk of us are definitely not democrats.

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blackjedii March 26 2016, 11:55:46 UTC
Eeyup. The people I've talked to aren't even anti-Clinton exactly; it's that they're so fed up with the two-party system and cronyism they don't care who it is so long as they aren't "establishment." Continually getting told they don't understand isn't going to sway them. If they could vote in a large mouth bass, they would.

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littlelistmaker March 26 2016, 16:49:00 UTC
yeah, i'm staying with the party because i have to for primaries, but i have lost absolutely all faith in the democratic party as an institution and realize now that they do not stand for my progressive and liberal values at all, just lining their pockets and keeping the status quo.

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elialshadowpine March 26 2016, 15:44:53 UTC
Exactly. I'm not a Democrat; I'm actually registered as an Independent, but that doesn't matter in my state for the caucus (which is in a couple hours! meep!). I live in a solidly blue state (WA) that has not gone red in the Electoral College since 1984 (both the year before I was born, and wow, that's one hell of a year, LOL). Having lived through Dubya getting into office via the EC certainly makes me consider my GE vote matter less.

I'll probably still vote for Hillary if it comes to that, because I don't hate her. If anything, I think running against Bernie has made her have to rethink some of her strategies and plans, and that could be a good thing in the long run, to realize that these are things important to a great many Americans.

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moonshaz March 26 2016, 23:03:52 UTC
I've been trying to tell people to stop assuming Bernie supporters are democrats...a huge chunk of us are definitely not democrats.

I agree that this is a really important point, and it's something I didn't realize myself until very recently. It just was not apparent to me, until it was pointed out here in this comm, but ever since I've become aware of that, a lot of things started making a lot more sense to me (like the degree of hostility toward Hillary and her supporters and the strongly negative reactions toward the idea that we should for example`).

I know things were fragmented in 2008, and there was infighting between Hillary supporters and Obama supporters--but the dynamic was different because both candidates and most of their supporters were actually Democrats. In the end, all (or at least the great majority) of both Hillary's and Obama's supporters were united in our shared desire for a Democratic president. We had differing ideas about who that should be, but I actually think most of us would have been okay with either ( ... )

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blackjedii March 26 2016, 12:04:28 UTC
Same here. I live in the poorest region of Virginia and Democrats are perfectly happy to woo working class voters throughout election season...

and then turn around and claim dumb racist rednecks after the fact.

One of the best things we can do to change dumb racist redneckism is invest in education / infrastructure / quality of life. But by that point both Democrats and Republicans would rather talk to lobbyists and have pissing contests with each other.

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arisma March 26 2016, 14:00:43 UTC
^^^ this, so much. For years I've fought against the concept that the RNC and DNC are the same. This election has shown me that other than set dressing, they really, really are.

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