Hillary Clinton's AIPAC speech was...something.

Mar 23, 2016 13:40

Hillary Clinton’s AIPAC Speech Was a Symphony of Craven, Delusional Pandering

Clinton had an opportunity to show some political courage. She decided to alienate the left instead.Any presidential candidate speaking to AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, during an election year is going to bow to the hawkish elements of the Israel ( Read more... )

palestine, israel, jewish people, arabs, hillary clinton

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calinewarkwc69 March 23 2016, 18:22:50 UTC
When she started promising the best high tech defense systems in the world to them, I tuned out. I cannot.... one of the most intelligent comments on this issue that really turned me more pro-Palestine was actually on ONTD, and basically, they gave a very riveting argument for Hamas and how they were essentially formed because Palestine had no real government and the government they were supposed to follow was attempting to commit a genocide against them, so OBVIOUSLY, as is human nature, groups arise to protect their people, provide the most basic of health services, schooling, water & food, DEFENSE.... and it rang true to me in so many ways... you cannot suppress a whole group of people and expect them to not eventually radicalize and fight back.

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browneyedguuurl March 23 2016, 18:29:12 UTC
Exactly. These people have basically been abused to the point that they have had to take matters into their own hands. And Israel bombing hospital, schools and bascially civilian populated places is an outright attack on innocents. Plus they control the water supply so that is a huge problem. The fact that people can stick their hands in their ears and ignore the situation as a whole is sickening.

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koushiba March 23 2016, 18:36:10 UTC
"You cannot suppress a whole group of people and expect them to not eventually radicalize and fight back."

I can't believe that people are still so obtuse about this because its so true about a lot of radical groups all over the world. You can't expect to push people to such desperation and not push back. No group is ever going to be like "oh I see your point, sure kill us all off!"

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browneyedguuurl March 23 2016, 19:16:33 UTC
I know. I roll my eyes when people go on the "They just hate freedom!!!!11!" rant. It makes me roll my eyes so hard.

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browneyedguuurl March 23 2016, 20:11:33 UTC
I just don't understand how people can defend her on her FP record. She has been a huge advocate for intervention and conflict. I love how NONE of her supporters have even bothered to respond to this post. I guess it's hard defending the indefensible.

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moonshaz March 24 2016, 05:54:38 UTC
I love how NONE of her supporters have even bothered to respond to this post. I guess it's hard defending the indefensible.

Some Hillary supporters HAVE responded since you posted this comment, as I hope you have noticed by now. And guess what? NONE of us are defending that speech! Go figure.

You see, for some of us, there is a middle ground somewhere between the stance that Hillary is pure evil (which seems to be a common sentiment in this comm--yes, that's a bit of hyperbole, but I happen to like hyperbole, and no, no one is saying it in those exact words, but that's definitely the impression I get from a lot of people here) and recognizing that she is wrong about some things but choosing to vote for her anyway.

I don't know what else to say, frankly.

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calinewarkwc69 March 24 2016, 16:22:09 UTC
It's the classic "big word bamboozle" -- people think she knows wtf she is doing because she can name names and present arguments in a [disingenuous] way that goes over most people's heads and so it gives them the impression of a strong record. What I have been telling people though is that not intervening is just as much of a plan as all her intervention is-- but people hear anti-intervention plans as absence of a plan altogether and it's really a bad perspective.

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lone_concertina March 24 2016, 01:14:22 UTC
Her fierce hawkishness is the #1 reason I won't vote for her in a general. I'm in Texas so it doesn't really matter, but as someone whose career goal is to work in the foreign service and believes 100% in the power of diplomacy, she can suck a fuck.

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lone_concertina March 24 2016, 18:59:45 UTC
Considering the odds of actually making it to an A-100 class, you should really start now for the practice. Something like 30,000 people apply and take the FSOT per year and only about 250 people are called from the register per year.

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celtic_thistle March 25 2016, 04:09:14 UTC
I feel like I read the same comment and ia

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