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that_which January 30 2014, 23:36:02 UTC
“Given the constant genital policing, you can’t expect trans folks to feel included by an event title focused on a policed, binary genital,” tweeted @DrJaneChi, an abortion and transgender health provider. (She mentioned “internal genitals” as an alternative.)

I'm a little confused by this. If the trans folk she's supporting (and I think it's terrific that she's supporting them, I really do) can be forced to bear the child of a rapist, how is it hurting them to point out that people who are born with vaginas need reproductive freedom?

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soleiltropiques January 31 2014, 02:35:23 UTC
Um, nope.

Just no.

It's not a question of 'people who are born with vaginas having reproductive freedom'. It's about NOT making a marginalized group even more marginalized by using language which (intentionally??) excludes them.

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nextdrinksonme January 31 2014, 03:03:20 UTC
Out of curiosity, how do you feel such an event/movement could be phrased? I know some guys who mention of/reminder that they have a uterus can be triggering (which is what I can only assume the writer of that tweet means about internal genitals--uteri aren't genitals, but organs, of course, but I'm not sure internal genitals are physically a thing. I could just be misinterpreting her, though, and internal genitals is simply a term I'm not familiar with). So A Night of a Thousand Uteri could be potentially triggering, as well. How could one address the topic of female-bodied/female assigned at birth folk needing reproductive freedom and protection that doesn't exclude or trigger/upset anyone?

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soleiltropiques January 31 2014, 19:44:45 UTC
You know what, I don't have the perfect answer to that.

The important point though, I think, is to *listen*.

A whole lot of people DON'T LISTEN, you know? They just *roll their eyes* and think to themselves 'oh no not another one'.

I don't claim to represent all aspects of intersectionality. But I think the important point is that if someone points out that something is triggering for them then maybe we should actually listen and figure out how to do things better.

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chasingtides January 31 2014, 03:43:18 UTC
Next time reproductive rights come up in a conversation, try to talk about trans men and see how fast you're shut down. I've done it on here, as a trans man, and it's not a conversation anyone online or in person wants to have. So until my reproductive rights are supported - or hey, I don't get state mandated sterilization to change some paperwork - I don't think anyone gets to tell me how to talk about my genitalia.

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soleiltropiques January 31 2014, 20:24:43 UTC
Very well said.

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