Re: I agree 110% that this is revolting.234_amDecember 6 2013, 06:52:17 UTC
I say "take pills" as a reference to North Americans/etc who support Big Pharma without second guessing or caring where their pills come from, as well as seeing nothing wrong with massive amounts of booze from Big Alcohol. In all honesty I was probably generalizing because I just do no see the rationale between the "health conscious" people and their anti-smoking brigades while they pop pills/drink booze/eat fast food etc. It is a lifestyle choice but I don't hear healthy-eating smokers (they exist!) complain about the smell when they see someone come out of McDonald's. And I can understand when I look at American cigarettes and understand where this article comes from. There is a reason I only smoke certain brands when visiting. Canadian tobacco (according to my Google-fu) is not harvested by kids, and the USA produces only about 4% of the world's tobacco. It's inexcusable for a wealthy country to treat its children this way but I blame more the people who are too lazy or complacent to know which companies/politicians/big corps are tied in which things they do not want to support. I believe that Americans would shit bricks if they all knew of this, but it's just as much the non-smoker's responsibility to not support the powers that be.
Yeah. I take my medications because I would literally die without them. The same can't be said about cigarettes, and the comparison is honestly insulting.
Seriously, comparing medications some of us require to treat health problems with smoking is pretty darned offensive, afaic!
I am dependent on antidepressants for my mental health. My psychiatric history is such that according to my doctor, I would have something like a 99% likelihood of falling into another major depression if I tried to stop taking them.
There is also another set of medications I take for my allergies and asthma, without which I would constantly be a sneezing, wheezing, runny eyed and nosed, itching, scratching mess, unable to function on anything resembling a normal level.
I don't take any of these meds for FUN--I take them for SURVIVAL. And I have ZERO percent control over where my meds come from or how they are produced. I HAVE to buy them from the sources my insurance REQUIRES me to buy them from, or do without, because without insurance, the cost would be astronomical.
Re: I agree 110% that this is revolting.tifaDecember 6 2013, 18:46:15 UTC
Other people have already spoken about your take on "lazy people" and their "pill-popping lifestyles" so I don't need to elaborate.
This isn't an anti-smoking brigade. It's a regulation (or lack thereof) thing. Western tobacco is also being harvested in other countries where we have no jurisdiction but the same things-if not worse-are happening.
Re: I agree 110% that this is revolting.lied_ohne_worteDecember 7 2013, 20:31:19 UTC
But passive fastfood-eating is just as dangerous as passive smoking! Or something, that whole series of comments makes a negative amount of sense, what with the "popping pills".
Re: I agree 110% that this is revolting.moonshazDecember 11 2013, 03:16:28 UTC
WELL?
234_am, I think you owe some of us here an apology for belittling the medications we need to take to stay alive/maintain some minimal quality of live/just plain SURVIVE.
You've made some outrageous accusations here. Some of us have posted to challenge them. You need to either apologize for insulting us or at least have the balls to come back here and defend your shit.
And I can understand when I look at American cigarettes and understand where this article comes from. There is a reason I only smoke certain brands when visiting. Canadian tobacco (according to my Google-fu) is not harvested by kids, and the USA produces only about 4% of the world's tobacco. It's inexcusable for a wealthy country to treat its children this way but I blame more the people who are too lazy or complacent to know which companies/politicians/big corps are tied in which things they do not want to support. I believe that Americans would shit bricks if they all knew of this, but it's just as much the non-smoker's responsibility to not support the powers that be.
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Are you serious? The medicines that keep people alive aren't at all comparable to your legalized recreational drug use. Come on.
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I am dependent on antidepressants for my mental health. My psychiatric history is such that according to my doctor, I would have something like a 99% likelihood of falling into another major depression if I tried to stop taking them.
There is also another set of medications I take for my allergies and asthma, without which I would constantly be a sneezing, wheezing, runny eyed and nosed, itching, scratching mess, unable to function on anything resembling a normal level.
I don't take any of these meds for FUN--I take them for SURVIVAL. And I have ZERO percent control over where my meds come from or how they are produced. I HAVE to buy them from the sources my insurance REQUIRES me to buy them from, or do without, because without insurance, the cost would be astronomical.
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Your cigarettes do the opposite to you, by choice and for recreational purposes. That's not something you can compare.
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This isn't an anti-smoking brigade. It's a regulation (or lack thereof) thing. Western tobacco is also being harvested in other countries where we have no jurisdiction but the same things-if not worse-are happening.
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wait, what? are you seriously saying that someone who comes out of a McDonalds smells as strongly as someone who has just smoked a cigarette?
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234_am, I think you owe some of us here an apology for belittling the medications we need to take to stay alive/maintain some minimal quality of live/just plain SURVIVE.
You've made some outrageous accusations here. Some of us have posted to challenge them. You need to either apologize for insulting us or at least have the balls to come back here and defend your shit.
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Whereas with second-hand smoke they're being affected by a choice someone else made?
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