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lykomancer March 27 2013, 15:18:07 UTC
I suppose this makes me a Terrible Person, but if the victim was suicidal, then I guess he got what he wanted in the end? (Seriously, threatening a suicidal person with lethal force is dumb. They already want to die. Why would being threatened with death faze them?)

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brucelynn March 27 2013, 15:27:56 UTC
that's not really the point though

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happythree March 27 2013, 15:35:36 UTC
You are massively oversimplifying.

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tnganon March 28 2013, 09:12:37 UTC
yeah, it kind of does make u a terrible person

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brucelynn March 27 2013, 15:32:14 UTC
Hmmmm .....

I do not agree with the way this was handled , it's like they went in with nothing but the intention to kill him rather than make an attempt to help him. That is why I do not trust police officers at all and I wonder if he was actually trying to commit suicide .... hmmm

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happythree March 27 2013, 15:47:05 UTC
My uncle died like this. He was an alcoholic, and my aunt and his (adult) sons gave him the choice to clean up or leave the home. They had a gun in the home, he threatened to use it on himself, and my aunt and his sons left the house and called the police.

Going off of the police reports, the action on the part of the police was ultimately understandable. They found an unstable man with a gun inside - surprise surprise - and they killed him. However, the incident has always made me question whether it was appropriate for the police to enter the home in the first place. He was the only one in it, and therefore he was only risking harm to himself. If the police hadn't gotten involved, if he'd been given some hours to cool off, perhaps he would have decided to try to seek help for himself and his family. But they came in when the emotions from the intervention were still running high, and that was that.

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mollywobbles867 March 27 2013, 16:15:20 UTC
I'm so sorry about your uncle.

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happythree March 27 2013, 18:16:01 UTC
My grandparents and my aunt and cousins were the ones who suffered the most. I just don't think they knew what to expect when they called the police, but it seemed like the best option at the time. They talk about their guilt over it to this day (it happened over ten years ago). The whole situation is very difficult.

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__nocturna March 27 2013, 18:54:05 UTC
and if the police left and he did something (maybe to one of your relatives), your family probably would have blamed the police for leaving tbh

I don't think you can call the police and then not have them do anything. That's a shitty story though, I'm sorry about your uncle.

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cozmic_oceanz March 27 2013, 15:54:12 UTC
wtf. w-t-f.

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rhysande March 27 2013, 17:08:33 UTC
There's no mention of anyone being held hostage or in imminent danger other than the victim turning on the police, which I have a feeling could have been avoided. I don't understand why the police didn't call in a suicide intervention expert as part of the response team.

I don't know much about weapons or how effective and easy to use they are, but aren't there other non/less-lethal options besides tasers that can (and should) be used to subdue someone before using a lethal weapon? Flashbangs, tear gas, rubber and beanbag rounds, tonfa and batons, and net guns come to mind. It seems to me that if the police were close enough to feel threatened by a knife or use a taser they should also have been close enough to use a net gun.

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