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ladypolitik March 4 2013, 00:46:39 UTC
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keeni84 March 4 2013, 00:49:35 UTC

comments i'd love to read: context and insight from people better informed about this than i am.
stuff i am not here for: the usual bullshit that happens in these posts.

Yes, thank you.

Also: What the fuck.

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underlankers March 4 2013, 01:33:15 UTC
This is why democracy cannot survive when it is rooted in a particular ethnicity and/or religion. At some point the particular ethnicity/religion always assumes a gravitational power over that of the state's own interests. Israel has at some point to decide if it's a democracy or a Jewish state, it will not survive the 21st Century as both at once.

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rkt March 4 2013, 02:35:50 UTC
Israel has at some point to decide if it's a democracy or a Jewish state, it will not survive the 21st Century as both at once.

comment is perfect.

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tcpip March 4 2013, 04:35:16 UTC
A couple of examples along this line of thinking: Noam Chomsky and Avraham Burg

e.g.,

"The Zionist dream is to construct a state which is as Jewish as England is English and France is French. At the same time, this state is to be a democracy on the Western model. Evidently, these goals are incompatible. Citizens of France are French, but citizens of the Jewish state may be non-Jews, either by ethnic or religious origin or simply by choice [...] To the extent that Israel is a Jewish State it cannot be a democratic state".

- Noam Chomsky, Forward to, The Arabs in Israel, Adalah, Legal Violations of Arab Minority Rights in Israel, 1998, p. 9

and Avraham Burg, "The end of Zionism Israel must shed its illusions and choose between racist oppression and democracy"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/sep/15/comment

Especially the Burg article. I remember reading in a plane flight in the IHT when it was published... it made the flight quite interesting.

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rkt March 4 2013, 06:06:45 UTC
thank you for the article

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kynical March 4 2013, 01:46:28 UTC
Color me not surprised given that Israel is committed to regressing.

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tabaqui March 4 2013, 01:47:53 UTC
Separate but equal....that always goes over well.

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sio March 4 2013, 01:59:59 UTC
MTFE.

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astridmyrna March 4 2013, 02:31:19 UTC
Eeyup.

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wrestlingdog March 4 2013, 03:33:42 UTC
Basically.

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