Mormons Want to Excommunicate Romney Critic

Sep 21, 2012 19:11

After writing negative articles about the Republican candidate, the managing editor of MormonThink.com says he faces excommunication. Is the Church on a witch hunt? Jamie Reno reports.

David Twede, 47, a scientist, novelist, and fifth-generation Mormon, is managing editor of MormonThink.com, an online magazine produced largely by members of the ( Read more... )

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sleeky September 22 2012, 10:50:13 UTC
Yeah. I would never vote for a Mormon.

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jettakd September 22 2012, 15:51:02 UTC
Seconded.

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amyura September 22 2012, 16:31:00 UTC
What about Harry Reid or one of the Udalls?

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moonshaz September 22 2012, 21:36:22 UTC
I think a lot of people either don't know or forget those guys are/were Mormons. I know I have trouble remembering it myself!

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sleeky September 22 2012, 23:10:36 UTC
Idk. Luckily I don't have to make that choice, but I would probably go with Harry Reid as he has been serving in Congress since before I was born. Our two party system sucks and if I had to live in a district where Democrat meant a mormon I would be aggressive with writing letters and whatnot lobbying my views. Wouldn't trust them though, but I am a bit paranoid.

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13chapters September 22 2012, 19:31:08 UTC
Most Mormons are politically conservative, which I am not, but there are liberal Mormons out there and I wouldn't have any problems voting for one of them if it came up. I've known a lot of Mormons (a really good friend of mine in high school was LDS and I ended up at a lot of Mormon social events through her) and they're not all in lockstep over every issue. Obviously this is anecdotal and I know that the church position is gross on a lot of issues, but individual people don't necessarily agree on every single issue that the church takes. Which is pretty normal.

The LDS church's willingness to excommunicate people is kind of nuts, though. They do it a LOT.

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sleeky September 22 2012, 23:11:11 UTC
I'm sure there are plenty of lovely mormons in the world but I have known a whole lot of them as well and what it comes down to is I would never really trust someone who labels themselves as LDS because that is a whole lot of baggage to accept and at the very least be passively ok with. Unlike christianity where you can proclaim whatever but still march to your own drum, I feel like mormonism requires you to be an active participant in a system that I find really horrid.

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13chapters September 22 2012, 23:14:43 UTC
Mormons are Christians. *shrug* I mean, I am not defending the Mormon Church AT ALL, I find it totally despicable, but lbr, no worse than the Catholic Church, which I also find completely loathsome. But I've probably voted for Catholics before, IDK, I don't really keep track of the religion of everyone I vote for.

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sleeky September 23 2012, 00:02:38 UTC
My point in comparison was that you can label yourself a christian or be a Catholic and never go to church or do anything about it. If you are a mormon and don't tithe or go to temple, they send people to your house to bring you back in.

Not defending the Catholic church or christians, but from my personal experience they have more wiggle room in their bullshit than mormons.

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13chapters September 23 2012, 00:08:46 UTC
Maybe...I guess I'm out of my element on that topic, as I am an atheist Jew and really have no point of comparison. I do know that the Mormons seem way happier to excommunicate people than Catholics. (Although the mother of my BFF was excommunicated from the RC church for getting divorced, LOL.)

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sleeky September 23 2012, 11:44:32 UTC
I have had a lot of experience with ex Mormons. One was my old roommate, he left and his family was still in the church. A whole lot of shit went down before they agreed to let him go if he was excommunicated rather than willingly left. In the lead up to all of that, one day I came home and one of the Mormons who regularly came by to talk to my roommate was sitting on our porch bench. With my dog. We had a little doggy door that let her go outside onto our fenced deck. The mormon said that he had heard her crying (bullshit) and (jumped over our fence) took her out so we wouldn't get in trouble with our neighbors. Dude had a leash with him. They do not joke around with their mind games.

I am Catholic-ish and haven't been to mass in forever. I guarantee no one from my parish is going to show up at my door and subtly threaten me so I come back to the flock.

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bonesnapdeez September 22 2012, 20:38:23 UTC
I have a hard enough time voting for Christians.

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bestdaywelived September 23 2012, 02:03:05 UTC
Me neither. Their church is far too controlling and anti-woman.

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natyanayaki September 23 2012, 05:00:21 UTC
I don't like the whole "I would never vote for __________," I'd rather go by the specific person, and how that person speaks about his/her religion. I mean, should I say "I would never vote for a Christian"? Because, Christian Churches have done lots of fecal matter. You know what I mean?

Of course, in the case of Romney, I agree who heartedly. I think he and the Mormon Church feed off of each other (Mormon ideas probably satisfies Romney's lust for power, and if Romney wins he'll be a gateway for power for the Church). And...regarding Romney being a Mormon, well...he converted/baptised his father-in-law after he had died, despite the fact that he was the only member of Ann's family who refused to convert because he was an Atheist and very much against organized religion. How can someone so disrespectful of his father-in-law's wishes work with Christians, Jews, or Muslims...or even worse Hindus, Buddhists, or Wiccans?

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sleeky September 23 2012, 11:24:16 UTC
No. I would never vote for a Mormon. Perhaps I wouldn't vote against someone like Harry Reid (not my district so haven't had to make that choice) and vote Republican but I would probably vote third party or abstain ( ... )

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natyanayaki September 23 2012, 21:31:47 UTC
Well, by the definition of Christianity, Mormonism can only be as Christian, as Christianity is Jewish.

Anyway, I think the world and people are far too complex to make blanket statements. What if someone is Mormon in name, registered with the temple, a Mormon so (s)he can stay in touch with his/her family? What if, as today's teens and twenties age...the way the religion operates changes? If I were to say that I could never vote for a Mormon, I know that I'd have to say "I'd never vote for anyone who follow an Abrahamic faith," and if I were to do that...I'd have to stop voting.

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