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RE: Thanks for the detailed explantation thinkweism July 30 2015, 14:05:42 UTC
no problem! the mls has two conferences set up in the MLS. once again, an inheritance/reflection of other american sports - but the nba/nfl/ncaa are a lot more headache inducing so the mls is easier to understand. the west & east are basically the teams that make up each division of the conference, so

west: colorado rapids, real salt lake, fc dallas, san jose earthquakes, houston dynamo, seattle sounders, la galaxy, sporting kanas city, portland timbers, cancouver whitecaps

east: chicago fire, new york fc, columbus crew, new york red bulls, dc united, orlando city, montreal impact, philadelphia union, new england revolution, toronto fc

the expansion teams so far are: atlanta (2017), los angeles fc (2018), minnesota (2018, but will play in 2017 if la fc isn't ready) & miami (tba). florida is considered part of the eastern conference, as is the south.

but lol if you want to introduce "south" conference, northeast, midwest, etc.... i invite you to take a look at the various conferences in the nba, for example. the nba operates on a generic "west/east conference" but they also have the subsets of atlantic, central, southeast, northwest, pacific, & southwest. do you really want the mls to do that? D:

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Re: Thanks for the detailed explantation jazzypom July 30 2015, 14:11:53 UTC
To be honest with you, I don't know much about how MLS is structured, so it's nice to have someone to explain it. Due to the amount of retired PL stars in the MLS nowadays (Gerrard, Henry, Lampard and now Drogba) the newspapers (The Guardian and The Daily Mail) do carry articles and pictures, but the articles tend to throw up more questions than it answers. I can understand why the MLS teams prefer to recruit coaches inward, because I'm sure an outside coach will go, "But why?!"

How many teams will the MLS have before there's a cut off? Or doesn't it matter? Like, could there be 50 teams in the MLS, or is there an optimum number that the Commissioner wants?

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RE: Re: Thanks for the detailed explantation thinkweism July 30 2015, 14:27:43 UTC
of course! no, the mls is really an amalgamation of the other american sports & that of european football so i can see where people outside the us would need to scratch their head and try to imagine why it is the way it is. but like i said, if people are really confused... i don't mind answering questions because i love the fact that people are taking an interest in our baby league. the league is the same age as me pretty much so i always feel bad that people make fun of it when it's only just a bit more than 20 years old.

lol i think an outsider coach would be hilaaaarious. when i think of it, i always remember the spoof video of the american coach in london with tottenham. we have a lot of rules & structural difference but i think it works because the us is an entirely different market & with fans who are already used to the "american way" with sports... it wouldn't work any other way. lol, regular american fans would probably blanch at the lack of playoffs and need to "earn" a spot to play to win the league title.

right now, don garber is really set on having 24 teams operating in the mls without going defunct or needing to be shut down/liquidated (like with chivas usa). as much as they're looking forward to atlanta being a part of the league, i think the team that will make/break the mls & the decision of expanding to more than 24 teams is gonna be miami. this is the expansion team that they're taking a risk on bc they feel like the miami demographic is really positive, but they also don't know if that's enough to keep the expansion team afloat - despite beckham's involvement.

i think the biggest issue atm for miami, beckham & co. is the location of a potential stadium. they want to build an entirely new stadium but the zoning issues are a mess. they might need to relocate home owners and this is has the potential to turn into a legal battle. which is why garber is really watching the miami franchise.

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Re: Re: Thanks for the detailed explantation jazzypom July 30 2015, 15:02:49 UTC
That video is hilarious. "Two halves" and "No tie"

LOL. Who's this actor? He's quite good.

right now, don garber is really set on having 24 teams operating in the mls without going defunct or needing to be shut down/liquidated (like with chivas usa). as much as they're looking forward to atlanta being a part of the league, i think the team that will make/break the mls & the decision of expanding to more than 24 teams is gonna be miami. this is the expansion team that they're taking a risk on bc they feel like the miami demographic is really positive, but they also don't know if that's enough to keep the expansion team afloat - despite beckham's involvement.

Wait. Stop. Sorry (I should be studying my Spanish, but, let me finish this first). Doesn't Florida already have a team? If Miami has one, isn't that near enough to Orlando to overlap territories? Can a state have more than two top tier teams (rather like say, Manchester in England have Manchester City and Manchester United). How will that go?

Off to research what a 'play off' is. I really need to rent Draft Day I think.

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Re: Thanks for the detailed explantation thinkweism July 30 2015, 15:28:06 UTC
lol, i loved the video because they did that part where they compared premier league teams to nfl teams - especially the dallas cowboys - and it's pretty accurate. and the actor is jason sudeikis, he's a pretty decent comedian/actor, i like him.

florida does have orlando city, but miami is about three and a half hours away from orlando - at the very least; i'd say the location differences would be the same as newcastle to manchester. so they're kinda separate of their own. orlando has their own NBA team, as does miami - so i would see why it would make sense for them to want to open an expansion team in miami when lots of people support the dolphins & heat. like i said - here in the us, people are fiercely patriotic but they're also very attached to representing their "city" or region, so to speak. so miami and orlando are def not close enough to overlap that territory, a 3 hr drive on a regular basis to see a florida mls team is really excruciating - especially when traffic is horrendous & public transporation is really lacking here in the us.

and california has two mls teams, as do texas & now new york too. let me tell you that the california clasico is a real thing and the rivalry between the san jose earthquakes & la galaxy is INTENSE. not as intense as la's town rivalry between their college football teams of usc and ucla, but the "clasico" here in cali is a big friggin' deal. not sure about texas and ny, but i can see it happening. the game between san jose and la definitely bring out the fans who, like said, really love to represent their city.

california fans go hard for their teams during these rivalries. even though seattle and portland are in different states, their rivalry is really insane as well. seattle fans have always been the loudest of the mls bunch so we're catching up when it comes to having multiple teams. los angeles is getting their expansion team with LA FC and i know lots of people are excited about the potential for that to become a crazy rivalry & scene for southern california.

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Re: Thanks for the detailed explantation thinkweism July 30 2015, 15:34:20 UTC
and regarding playoffs, the MLS has a structure that doesn't let the team with the most points at the end of the season hoist the league title. to win the MLS Cup, the team has to make it through a series of games against 11 other teams.

basically there are 12 teams in the playoffs - 6 from the western conference and 6 from the eastern. they play in their own separate conference bracket first, so the western teams will go head to head with one another & the eastern teams will do the same. so the 6 teams from the west will try to beat one another to make it to the western conference final, and the 6 teams from the east will compete to make it to their own eastern conference final.

after a team has won their respective conference final, the western winner & eastern winner will go to the MLS Cup final against one another. and that's how they decide who really wins the league in the MLS. but lol, if you really need help visualizing this, i can draw up a mock playoff scenario with teams so you can see it work!

i kinda like the playoffs situation because it gives 6 teams from each conference to compete and earn the chance to win the league. so teams that sit "mid-table" in their own conference can actually come out and win the league despite not playing as consistent as the top mls teams.

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