Glastonbury 2010: I love Snoop Dogg the artist - but despise him as a man

Jun 28, 2010 10:13

Many of his songs are appallingly sexist. So why is feminist Julie Bindel such a fan of Snoop Dogg's music - and what did she make of his set ( Read more... )

pop culture, race/racism, music

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lilitu93 June 28 2010, 13:09:59 UTC
Heh, I'm a Jew who listens to Neofolk and plays it too (though I don't consider the early artists to be Neofolk but Neofolk to be the followers who copied the style, but that's genre wanking that isn't really relevant). So does that make me the queen of problematicness?

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lilitu93 June 28 2010, 13:33:35 UTC
Neofolk is an offshoot of goth and industrial, and lots of the artists used Nazi and Fascist imagery, especially in the early days. There's also lots of Heathenism/Paganism and idealising pre-modern Europe, which can be problematic as well.

The groups that started it were Current 93, Death in June and Sol Invictus. Most of the original artists moved away from that, but there are lots of copy cat bands, many of whom moved away from the Nazi stuff.

Most of the people in the scene aren't Nazis, but there are some bands and fans who outright are. I don't listen to those bands, and there are loads of fans who are antifascist and antiracist who hate that side of the scene.

(Note: I'm somewhat biased as I'm married to the singer of Sol Invictus and play with them sometimes, and we met through that scene, though it was only starting to be called neofolk at that
time.)

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flow_her June 28 2010, 13:58:28 UTC
OMG do I have permission to squeel? It could be I've seen you live. ^^

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lilitu93 June 28 2010, 14:02:07 UTC
If you want. :-) I haven't been playing out with them as much lately, due to work concerns and lack of pet sitting (yeah, boring reason, but oh well). If you saw a gig with a red-headed violinist wearing glasses, it was probably me. (The other current violinist Aelish is blonde and a lot thinner than me, so we're easy to tell apart.)

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flow_her June 28 2010, 15:01:38 UTC
Yup, then I've seen you =)

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lilitu93 June 28 2010, 15:08:32 UTC
Hope it wasn't too horrific an experience and I didn't play too many bum notes. ;-)

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flow_her June 28 2010, 15:14:45 UTC
No, it was nice :) Don't worry.

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cpl593h June 28 2010, 18:15:12 UTC
um yeah I kind of want to squee for you and Sol Invictus too okay because I love them. I discovered them through Agalloch and yeah. /fangirl

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recognitions June 28 2010, 13:35:55 UTC
I think she's talking about stuff like Death in June who used lots of Nazi imagery in their stage shows.

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fruhlings June 28 2010, 13:26:40 UTC
I listen to a lot of messed up stuff too. :/

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